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I'm sure by now we've all heard about MS taking a shot at OO. Criticism is
good, it makes us better. The surefire way to win is to simply address the
problem issues and make them go away.
OpenOffice could be the world standard ver
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 08:53:13 AM -0400, Wm Stewart
(wstew...@livinginternet.com) wrote:
> OpenOffice could be the world standard very quickly if it solved
> what users say is the number one barrier to widespread adoption.
> Slides 26 and 30 of this presentation show that the feature OO users
> *th
On 10/16/2010 9:36 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 08:53:13 AM -0400, Wm Stewart
(wstew...@livinginternet.com) wrote:
OpenOffice could be the world standard very quickly if it solved
what users say is the number one barrier to widespread adoption.
Slides 26 and 30 of this presentat
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 10:02:18 AM -0400, Wm Stewart
(wstew...@livinginternet.com) wrote:
>
> On 10/16/2010 9:36 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
> >On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 08:53:13 AM -0400, Wm Stewart
> >(wstew...@livinginternet.com) wrote:
> >
> >>OpenOffice could be the world standard very quickly if it sol
On 10/16/2010 10:37 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
Now, the real reason why we're discussing now is that we have two
different objectives. You want OOo to be the standard. I want
OpenDocument to be the standard, because file formats are much more
important than software programs and we use software becau
On Sat Oct 16 2010 08:48:18 GMT-0700 (PDT) Wm Stewart wrote:
Hi Marco, I absolutely agree that ODF should be the world-wide standard.
But what is the best way to get there?
The evidence so far shows it won't happen as long as MS Office is the
world-wide standard, ODF plugin or not. However
On 10/16/2010 12:07 PM, RA Brown wrote:
How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure of
the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering can only
do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that everyone could access then
it would be easy to do, but the
On Sat Oct 16 2010 10:22:44 GMT-0700 (PDT) Wm Stewart wrote:
On 10/16/2010 12:07 PM, RA Brown wrote:
How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure of
the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering can
only
do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format
On 10/16/2010 2:59 PM, RA Brown wrote:
Ok. So the developers spend what, several hundred hours "fixing" the
compatibility issues. Next release MS changes the format, as they just did
with making even older versions of their on software in compatible and
older documents useless.
Hi Andy, my res
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 13:22:44 PM -0400, Wm Stewart
(wstew...@livinginternet.com) wrote:
>b. Solving compatibility is under the community's control
NO. It isn't. By definition. Because it's not the community that
controls when the secret formats it's trying to catch will stop moving
and changi
Hi Marco, I'm a developer and completely understand your points.
Continuing disagreement with your position is not evidence that I don't.
Progress and learning cannot be achieved when one side says - "if you still
disagree with me it can only be because you don't understand my completely
corr
Hi,
Another factor is perceived value based on price. Many people assume
things are better when they cost more/at all, without examining actual
quality and value even slightly. I unfortunately don't have a clue how
to address this, because I can't grasp the mentality behind it in
order to see how t
On 10/16/2010 8:56 PM, Bianca Gibson wrote:
Hi,
Another factor is perceived value based on price. Many people assume
things are better when they cost more/at all, without examining actual
quality and value even slightly. I unfortunately don't have a clue how
to address this, because I can't gras
RA Brown wrote,
[..]
How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure
of the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering
can only do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that everyone could
access then it would be easy to do, but they don't.
Andy
On 10/16/2010 9:30 PM, Bob Long wrote:
RA Brown wrote,
[..]
How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO?
The structure
of the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse
engineering
can only do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that
everyone could
access then it w
> I mentioned free software back when there wasn't much of it out there. My
> office mate, who is an ultimate pessimist, sarcastically suggested that you
> get what you pay for. My experience since is that this is false. The ratio
> of functionality to cost, where cost includes learning and mainten
On Sat Oct 16 2010 18:30:30 GMT-0700 (PDT) Bob Long wrote:
RA Brown wrote,
[..]
How do you propose to make OOo 100% compatible with MSO? The structure
of the files is closed so no one but MS has them. Reverse engineering
can only do so much. _IF_ MS used a published format that everyone could
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