Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Radar receiver

2008-06-06 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Naoufel Amri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know if the receiver function of "usrp_radar_mono.py" is complete? > If yes,where are the datas ,which are recovered by the receiver, store ? And > how can I get them back? The gr-radar-mono transceiver records, duri

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: Discuss-gnuradio Digest, Vol 67, Issue 15

2008-06-06 Thread sri ram
Thanks for the quick reply. Please see inline responses. > > > Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:19:56 -0400 > From: Greg Troxel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] 802.11 on USRP+GNURadio > To: "sri ram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gsm gmsk demodulation

2008-06-06 Thread Ben Wojtowicz
It is defintely do-able in real time software. I have done some work in the past that continuosly decoded all 8 timeslots in real time on a 1GHz PPC. Also, the processor usage goes way down when you only look at 1 of the 8 timeslots, which is usually all that is needed. Ben On 6/6/08, Long, Jeff

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Matt Ettus
Bob McGwier wrote: The USRP is not in the same league with the USRP2. The on board oscillator is much better but external oscillators will make it even better. So the answer is a big yes, the USRP2 will be better. Actually, I need to disagree again here :) The master oscillator on the USRP1

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
Matt Ettus wrote: Jeff Brower wrote: Bob- In your sixteen QAM and other figures I see two effects. Notice just the slightest hint that arcs through the top four constellation points in the 16 QAM is not straight. This curvature is caused by nonlinearity. Your result almost surely can NOT

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Jeff Brower
Bob- > Good to hear from you again. I am distinguishing betwen clock recovery > operations in the receiver and the oscillator feeding the down > conversion mixers. Even though there is some commonality in the sources > for these two DIFFERENT things on the USRP, implementation factors of > the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
Jeff: Good to hear from you again. I am distinguishing betwen clock recovery operations in the receiver and the oscillator feeding the down conversion mixers. Even though there is some commonality in the sources for these two DIFFERENT things on the USRP, implementation factors of the clo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
The USRP is not in the same league with the USRP2. The on board oscillator is much better but external oscillators will make it even better. So the answer is a big yes, the USRP2 will be better. Bob Per Zetterberg wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob McGwier [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Matt Ettus
Jeff Brower wrote: Bob- In your sixteen QAM and other figures I see two effects. Notice just the slightest hint that arcs through the top four constellation points in the 16 QAM is not straight. This curvature is caused by nonlinearity. Your result almost surely can NOT be clock jitter.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Losing data during long collects

2008-06-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Bob McGwier wrote: There is insufficient dynamic range in any GPS signal on any ordinary mortals GPS antenna to use more than 8 bits. Not so if the signal is being jammed... ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Re: 802.11 on USRP+GNURadio

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Troxel
We've had similar issues. Please see our 802.11 receiver implementation: http://span.ece.utah.edu/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.80211bReceiver Indeed - you should definitely try the others. Ours sort of works, and has a c ool hack to fit within USRP USB bus bandwidth, but I expect implementatio

RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] Posted: Enhanced GMSK demodulator

2008-06-06 Thread Long, Jeffrey P.
Steve- You know what, you might be right here. I am starting to remember that it could be BT dependent. My application called out for a BT of .5 which is not too severe(we didn't really have ACI issues) so in reality the threshold might be good enough right thru the center. With something more sev

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: 802.11 on USRP+GNURadio

2008-06-06 Thread Neal Patwari
Sri Ram, We've had similar issues. Please see our 802.11 receiver implementation: http://span.ece.utah.edu/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.80211bReceiver Regards, Neal ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailm

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Import issue

2008-06-06 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:35:41AM -0700, irene159 wrote: > > > In my case, it works replacing "from gnuradio import blks2" by "from > gnuradio.blks2impl import rational_resampler" but that doesn't explain why > command line works from the terminal but not from the file... > > irene159 wrote: >

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Posted: Enhanced GMSK demodulator

2008-06-06 Thread Steven Clark
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Long, Jeffrey P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven- > > Did you actually find that the decision threshold needs to be biased? I > actually implemented the 2 bit differential detector on a custom asic > that was targeted at streaming audio(in 2004) and during the >

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] 802.11 on USRP+GNURadio

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Looking at the archives, I understand that I can receive 1 Mbps probe/beacon packets with code developed by BBN. I use their code and see packets at 1 Mbps from different nodes. However, I don't know of a way to have the USRP as a destination for a flow using standard packet generation to

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Posted: Enhanced GMSK demodulator

2008-06-06 Thread Steven Clark
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:56 AM, isaacgerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ive noticed that the papers you cited only take in "real" data and not > "complex." Is this true? Is this true for your implementation? > > Isaac I think they do in fact take in complex. How would one do a 90deg phase shift

[Discuss-gnuradio] 802.11 on USRP+GNURadio

2008-06-06 Thread sri ram
Sorry. The subject of my previous mail ought to have been 802.11 on USRP. Sriram ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio

[Discuss-gnuradio] Parsing a packet

2008-06-06 Thread sri ram
Hello all, I am trying to use the USRP to capture 802.11 packets and have a few questions. Looking at the archives, I understand that I can receive 1 Mbps probe/beacon packets with code developed by BBN. I use their code and see packets at 1 Mbps from different nodes. However, I don't k

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Import issue

2008-06-06 Thread irene159
In my case, it works replacing "from gnuradio import blks2" by "from gnuradio.blks2impl import rational_resampler" but that doesn't explain why command line works from the terminal but not from the file... irene159 wrote: > > Hello, > > Concerning blks2 import (blks2.rational_resampler need

RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] gsm gmsk demodulation

2008-06-06 Thread Long, Jeffrey P.
I agree with Steven, while there are definitely more "optimal" solutions like MLSE they don't always make sense for every application. GSM phones and the like have dedicated DSP resources to run a Viterbi algorithm but is this doable on the typical gnu users computer? I will defer to the experts on

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gsm gmsk demodulation

2008-06-06 Thread Steven Clark
> On 6/6/08, Bob McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is not my professional experience. The sounding data is used to find >> the channel and then the data symbols are soft detected through a "viterbi >> equalizer" in every implementation I am aware of that is any good at all >> with the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gsm gmsk demodulation

2008-06-06 Thread Ben Wojtowicz
I agree with Bob, most gsm demodulators I have seen use a viterbi equalizer (sometimes called MLSE equalization). Ben On 6/6/08, Bob McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not my professional experience. The sounding data is used to find > the channel and then the data symbols are soft

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Jeff Brower
Bob- > In your sixteen QAM and other figures I see two effects. > > Notice just the slightest hint that arcs through the top four > constellation points in the 16 QAM is not straight. This curvature is > caused by nonlinearity. > > Your result almost surely can NOT be clock jitter. If you had

RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] Posted: Enhanced GMSK demodulator

2008-06-06 Thread Long, Jeffrey P.
Steven- Did you actually find that the decision threshold needs to be biased? I actually implemented the 2 bit differential detector on a custom asic that was targeted at streaming audio(in 2004) and during the simulations I found that moving the bias point did very little for performance. Maybe i

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Posted: Enhanced GMSK demodulator

2008-06-06 Thread isaacgerg
Ive noticed that the papers you cited only take in "real" data and not "complex." Is this true? Is this true for your implementation? Isaac Steven Clark-2 wrote: > > I've added a link to > http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/Enhanced_GMSK_Demodulator from > http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/OurUsers

[Discuss-gnuradio] Radar receiver

2008-06-06 Thread Naoufel Amri
Hello everybody, Do you know if the receiver function of "usrp_radar_mono.py" is complete? If yes,where are the datas ,which are recovered by the receiver, store ? And how can I get them back? Thanks a lot! Naoufel

[Discuss-gnuradio] Import issue

2008-06-06 Thread irene159
Hello, Concerning blks2 import (blks2.rational_resampler needed) "from gnuradio import blks2" works on python command line but not in python file (ImportError: cannot import name blks2). Where can this come from? Regards, Irene -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Import-

RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Per Zetterberg
> -Original Message- > From: Bob McGwier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: den 6 juni 2008 09:23 > To: Per Zetterberg > Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; 'Per Zetterberg' > Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results. > > In your sixteen QAM and other figures I see two effects. > > Notic

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Losing data during long collects

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
There is insufficient dynamic range in any GPS signal on any ordinary mortals GPS antenna to use more than 8 bits. Bob Chris Stankevitz wrote: Dan Halperin wrote: USRP's cfile utility cannot write my data without overruns, so I use my own app which I have attached to this email in case anyon

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gsm gmsk demodulation

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
This is not my professional experience. The sounding data is used to find the channel and then the data symbols are soft detected through a "viterbi equalizer" in every implementation I am aware of that is any good at all with the exception of one I wrote several years ago which estimates the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM results.

2008-06-06 Thread Bob McGwier
In your sixteen QAM and other figures I see two effects. Notice just the slightest hint that arcs through the top four constellation points in the 16 QAM is not straight. This curvature is caused by nonlinearity. Your result almost surely can NOT be clock jitter. If you had a lot of clock