Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [InBand]Rx side design

2007-06-11 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Something surprised me in the current rx_buffer code: It seems that if samples are received from different rx_chains at the same time, they will be mixed in the next USB packet toward the host. Has the host a way to separate them? Shall I keep this behaviour or separate samples by channel when USB

[Discuss-gnuradio] [InBand]Rx side design

2007-06-11 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hello, Here is a diagram of the Rx side. http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/thottelt/rx.png I plan to use a fifo to cross clock domains because it's simpler than a delay cell. Samples and commands will be stored in dual port fifos (one per channel) A reader will poll them: if there are samples or com

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-23 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: Sounds fun. Are you sure you're ready for a live test? I don't know :) What kind of problem should I expect when trying to go from simulation to reality ? You don't need to do this. Just don't connect up the tx_strobe - doesn't that solve the problem? You shouldn

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-22 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: I have just refactored the code so that the fifos are out of the readers. I also added samples format handling (only 16 bits interleaved complex so far). I am looking forward to testing this; George told me he will be able to send usb packets on Tuesday. Perfect. Yes

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-21 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
According to your diagram here: http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/UsrpTxModifications Maybe we should have a tx_usb_fifo, tx_usb_fifo_reader, tx_chan_fifo, tx_chan_fifo reader, tx_cmd_fifo_reader (the tx_chan_fifo and tx_cmd_fifo are essentially the same thing, but the tx_cmd_fifo_reader should figu

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: I am not sure this is where the tx_strobe is supposed to occur. I think it's in whatever reads your individual channel FIFOs and feeds the CIC filters (unless usb_chan_reader is the module, and is just named very strangely). Yes, it's this module. Any suggestion for a be

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: > There should be absolutely no glue logic between the modules within a > top entity possibly called mblock_processing. The inputs should feed > the specialized USB FIFOs, and the outputs should feed the separate > CIC channel filters (complex). > > Everything else from ther

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] packets to the usrp and loopback

2007-04-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hi, I moved all my small testing blocks from ModelSim to the Quartus source tree. I am writing the glue code between the modules so we should have the basic Tx functionality working relatively soon. But before that, I would like to simulate to whole Tx block in ModelSim, so I need some inform

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: USB FIFO

2007-03-29 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/29/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "This way we don't need a dual clock fifo that can skip, only a single clock one" Yes, that's wrong, I wanted to say that we need only standard dual clock fifo or single clock fifo that can

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: USB FIFO

2007-03-29 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/29/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "This way we don't need a dual clock fifo that can skip, only a single clock one" Yes, that's wrong, I wanted to say that we need only standard dual clock fifo or single clock fifo that can

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: USB FIFO

2007-03-29 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/29/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My idea was that the process in the fpga that read usb_bus can store the packet and the total length is reached, ignore the data coming because we know its padding. That process is the first process in the wik

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: USB FIFO

2007-03-29 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/29/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I CC'd the list, so Eric can participate to this discussion. The more the merrier. Yes but the only dual clock fifo is tx_usb_fifo, right? For this one we can use the Altera dual clock fifo. The only

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: USB FIFO

2007-03-29 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
I CC'd the list, so Eric can participate to this discussion. Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/28/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I noticed two things: The fifo does not need to be dual clock because we only use it for the tx_chan_fifo_X. The FX2 directly toggles the w

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-26 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: Looks cool to me. 32-bits should be OK. What problems do you think you may have an issue with? None particularly. There is no 32 bits wide bus in the fpga currently, so I thought that it might use too many connections. You will probably have to create your own FI

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-26 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
I updated the wiki page (http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/UsrpTxModifications) again, added the command block FSM and renamed the fifos as Eric proposed. If nobody see any major problem, I can start to implement these modifications by working on the tx_usb_block. Here is what I think that could

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-25 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: A comment with the USB Block - I believe all the processing going into the USB FIFO is done within the FX2. Moreover, i don't know why you're keeping the byte_count around - it's coming in with the packet header. Are you sure? I thought the FX2 was only buffering the packe

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-24 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
I updated the wiki paged and added state machines. (http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/UsrpTxModifications) Here are the issues still unresolved that I am aware of: - Are the overrun/underrun flag per channel or global? From which fifo should they be generated? - When a packet is outdated I still

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-24 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Eric Blossom wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 02:45:54PM -0400, Thibaud Hottelier wrote: Eric Blossom wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 03:33:08PM -0400, Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/22/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can copy the sample to a fifo, but I still have 3 pro

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-23 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/23/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, let me summarize: One dual clock fifo (usb_fifo) to buffer the packet from the FX2. One process store the data from the usb while one other process read them and splits commands (stored in cmd_fifo) fro

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-23 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Eric Blossom wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 03:33:08PM -0400, Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/22/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can copy the sample to a fifo, but I still have 3 processes that want to use the RAM a the same time: One to progressively store the packets

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-22 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So the fpga would only use fifo and push the data to next one. It does not work if shared RAM is used to avoid copy between buffers; or I am completely wrong and I fail to understand your point. You are correct on that one unless you setup an in

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-22 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/22/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can copy the sample to a fifo, but I still have 3 processes that want to use the RAM a the same time: One to progressively store the packets coming from the usb bus, one to copy the samples into the corresp

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-22 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/22/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I forgot that the packet are ordered by timestamps, which solved the fragmentation issues. However I cannot find an Altera RAM megafunction that provides more that two independent ports. This is not enou

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-22 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/21/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, if I have correctly understood, I would use dual_clock ram component (altsyncram for instance) and only pass the packet address (and maybe its length) to the next block. If the whole packet (including paddi

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-21 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
same size, but if I have different packet length then it becomes hairy to deal with because there are RAM fragmentation issues. Is it ok to store the padding to simplify the processing ? Eric Blossom wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 12:45:00PM -0400, Thibaud Hottelier wrote: How do the fpga know is

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-21 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
How do the fpga know is data is interleaved or not ? I am still worried about the number of fifo that will be used and their size. The FPGA looks pretty full. Is there a way to have a memory separated from the FPGA that I could access through a bus? Thibaud Brian Padalino wrote: Something e

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
I have updated the wiki page (http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/UsrpTxModifications) to add the processes description in pseudo-code. If it still looks good to you I will do the same for the receiving side so we can I have a global view of what's going on. It will be done tomorrow. Thibaud ___

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/20/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: About the pulling/pushing thing: I though that I would have one process in the usb block writing the usb_fifo data on the bus and one other process in the channel block that would read them from the bus and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-20 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
process ? Thibaud Brian Padalino wrote: On 3/19/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I will modify it for pushing instead of pulling packets. Can I assume that the data will arrive ordered by timestamps ? If not then I have to use one data_queue and one samples_fifo per c

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-19 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Ok, I will modify it for pushing instead of pulling packets. Can I assume that the data will arrive ordered by timestamps ? If not then I have to use one data_queue and one samples_fifo per channel, isn't that too much? Thibaud Brian Padalino wrote: > A comment on your description: > > It's eas

[Discuss-gnuradio] USRP packet parsing

2007-03-19 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hi, I have created a wiki page describing what USB packet parsing could look like for the transmit chain: http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/UsrpTxModifications I am wondering what you think of it; if it is completely wrong or if it could work with some modifications. I made a wiki page so you can mo

[Discuss-gnuradio] InBand Signaling: Schedule

2007-03-01 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hello, We (George and me) have added a schedule page to the wiki : http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/InBandSignalingSched Could you please look it over, add anything missing and suggest deadline. I can work on the FPGA, but I don't think I will be very efficient. It would be great if you could sugges

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USB packet format / inband signaling

2007-02-27 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Brian Padalino wrote: > Hi Thibaud, > > Here is my response as to how I understand things to work - which > could be completely wrong. > > On 2/27/07, Thibaud Hottelier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> First of all, I would like to make sure

[Discuss-gnuradio] USB packet format / inband signaling

2007-02-27 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hi all, First of all, I would like to make sure that I have understood what is going to be modified. I have made a diagram with the whole Gnuradio component stack: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/415/groveralleb2.png 1) The new usb packet will be encoded/decoded in the gnuradio uspr driver and

[Discuss-gnuradio] FPGA Questions

2007-02-24 Thread Thibaud Hottelier
Hi all, I have dived into the fpga code and I have now much clearer picture of what is going on, but also much more questions :) The Tx CORDIC is disabled in the code I checked out. Why? I have failed to find a description of how to control the AD9862 chip on the Analog Device web site. Where is