Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-23 Thread CEL
Hi Andres, just had a short look: doesn't NTSC use a nearly 6 MHz bandwidth? Best regards, Marcus On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 23:33 +, Andres Campos Santana wrote: > Hello everyone. > > I am trying to make a NTSC TV receiver I watched in github (https://g > ithub.com/kik/sdr-tv) but I can't rece

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-24 Thread Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
> To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; andrescampo...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER > > Hi Andres, > > just had a short look: doesn't NTSC use a nearly 6 MHz bandwidth? > > Best regards, > Marcus Yes, no way with the RTL to

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-24 Thread Ron Economos
wrote: To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; andrescampo...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER Hi Andres, just had a short look: doesn't NTSC use a nearly 6 MHz bandwidth? Best regards, Marcus Yes, no way with the RTL to catch NTSC, it does in SDR mode only

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-24 Thread Anders Hammarquist
In a message of Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:27:40 +0200, "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" writes: >> Hi Andres, >> >> just had a short look: doesn't NTSC use a nearly 6 MHz bandwidth? >> >> Best regards, >> Marcus > >Yes, no way with the RTL to catch NTSC, it does in SDR mode only 2.smth MHz >bandwidth. Actu

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-24 Thread Martin McCormick
First, I will talk about the things I know for sure. The NTSC analog system as well as Pal systems in a lot of the rest of the world had a lot in common with eachother. Both systems transmitted an AM video signal in Vestigial single sideband mode such that the carrier frequency was always

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-24 Thread CEL
Hi Martin, internally, the RTL dongles are fast enough to capture full DVB-T (not -T2) channels, and demodulate, and decode them, and deliver the video stream to the host. However, RTL-SDR can't use that mode - it uses a "bypass the whole Digital TV specific stuff" mode and directly passes IQ samp

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Adrian Musceac
Hi Marcus, You're right about the RTL sample rate, but I'm curious about why it is so small. Is it the bus speed? The ADC is obviously fast enough for DVB-T2. Regards, Adrian On August 24, 2018 7:42:17 PM UTC, "Müller, Marcus (CEL)" wrote: >Hi Martin, > >internally, the RTL dongles are fast e

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Ron Economos
The maximum Transport Stream rate of DVB-T is 31.67 Mbps, so the USB interface only needs to deliver 4 MB/s. Since you need two 8-bit samples in IQ mode, it's 2 Msps. Ron On 08/25/2018 12:44 AM, Adrian Musceac wrote: Hi Marcus, You're right about the RTL sample rate, but I'm curious about wh

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Adrian Musceac
Hi Ron, So in theory, replacing the USB2 chip with a USB3 would allow access to the full sample rate, or is there some other internal limitation? Regards, Adrian On August 25, 2018 8:06:20 AM UTC, Ron Economos wrote: >The maximum Transport Stream rate of DVB-T is 31.67 Mbps, so the USB >inter

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Ron Economos
It's all about making them as inexpensive as possible. The USB controller has just enough bandwidth for the intended purpose. On a consumer product, even a few cents makes a difference. Ron On 08/25/2018 01:13 AM, Adrian Musceac wrote: Hi Ron, So in theory, replacing the USB2 chip with a USB

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Kyeong Su Shin
, Kyeong Su Shin 보낸 사람: Adrian Musceac 대신 Discuss-gnuradio 보낸 날짜: 2018년 8월 25일 토요일 오후 5:13:09 받는 사람: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; Ron Economos 제목: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER Hi Ron, So in theory, replacing the USB2 chip with a USB3 would allow

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Adrian Musceac
18년 8월 25일 토요일 오후 5:13:09 >받는 사람: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; Ron Economos >제목: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER > >Hi Ron, > >So in theory, replacing the USB2 chip with a USB3 would allow access to >the full sample rate, or is there some other internal limita

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Martin McCormick
I must think a little better next time. I looked at my posting to the list and realized I was being rather dim-witted in that I was imagining the signal path for the video as needing the sound card as it does when one is decoding the sound carrier or an FM radio station. In theory, one co

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-25 Thread Andres Campos Santana
ks for your help! Andrés. De: Discuss-gnuradio en nombre de Martin McCormick Enviado: sábado, 25 de agosto de 2018 18:12 Para: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Asunto: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER I must think a little better next time. I looked at my posting to th

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-27 Thread Martin McCormick
Andres Campos Santana writes: > I tried to listen to the NTSC channel audio using a FM receiver I made, > and I got it, I could listen to it perfectly. > > That should be a good way to prove that I'm receiving the channel signal, > for that reason, I don't understand why I just receive a diffus

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NTSC TV RECEIVER

2018-08-27 Thread Andres Campos Santana
e the moving images and the receiver. Martin, thanks for your help and your time again friend. De: Discuss-gnuradio en nombre de Martin McCormick Enviado: lunes, 27 de agosto de 2018 17:58 Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Asunto: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAKING A NT