[Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-12 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hello folks, I am trying to resolve the 90* ambiguity of costas for a QPSK receiver, and was hoping folks could weigh-in in case anyone had success with this in the past. yes, diff encoding works.. :) trying to make it work without though. Also, I had seen Tom R's example of his cor-and-sync

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-12 Thread Landsman, Arik
quick update - thinking about it a bit more thoroughly, the up-sampling approach I considered below won't likely correlate as well as picking a preamble such that its real portion is the same in both bpsk and qpsk. From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Saturday, Mar

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-13 Thread Andy Walls
On Sun, 2016-03-13 at 01:35 -0500, discuss-gnuradio-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:34:03 + > From: "Landsman, Arik" > > Hello folks, > > I am trying to resolve the 90* ambiguity of costas for a QPSK > receiver, and was hoping folks could weigh-in in case an

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-14 Thread Landsman, Arik
ation%20systems&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:51 AM To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Cc: Landsman, Arik Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk On Sun, 20

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-25 Thread Landsman, Arik
: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:59 AM To: Andy Walls; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Andy, Thank you for the detailed answer, I am certainly going to try what you suggest in the next couple of days. will post with upda

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-25 Thread Andy Walls
lates the input, I'd would probably be easier for me to see what's wrong about the corr_est process. Regards, Andy > Many Thanks, > Arik > > > > > > > > > > From: Landsman, Arik > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:59 AM > To: Andy Walls;

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-29 Thread Landsman, Arik
ut are labeled properly. Hopefully easy to follow. And thanks again! Arik From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:45 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-30 Thread Andy Walls
Arik > > > ________ > From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:45 PM > To: Landsman, Arik > Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync blo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-31 Thread Landsman, Arik
ot the weekend is my sweet spot.. Thanks, Arik From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:56 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-syn

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-02 Thread Landsman, Arik
the symbols in an > > > unpredictable way - nothing seems to be off. > > > > > > As the ultimate check I usually loop the input file ("packet" if you > > > will) and compare it at the Rx. "Hello World" pops here and there but not > > &

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-02 Thread Andy Walls
This is OK as long as you are very close to the correct center frequency. The measured phase rotation will become less correct the farther you move from the measurement point at the peak of the correlation, if you don't have good frequency lock when performing the correlation. Regards, Andy &

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-02 Thread Andy Walls
tag marking delay to 0, to mark the first symbol in the preamble > with the phase correction. This is OK as long as you are very close to the > correct center frequency. The measured phase rotation will become less > correct the farther you move from the measurement point at the peak of the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
ls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 8:11 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Arik: On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Landsman, Arik > wrote: Hi Andy, Still loo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-03 Thread Andy Walls
hase offset, the Rayleigh fading, fast varying CFO, and fast varying Phase Offset will be the worst. Regards, Andy > Thanks, > Arik > > > ______ > From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] > Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-04 Thread Andy Walls
On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 19:33 -0400, Andy Walls wrote: > On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 20:24 +, Landsman, Arik wrote: > > > btw, played with tag delay manually, this has an immense effect on > > costas rotation once fading model is added to channel. > > Well there are a number of things going on here,

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-04 Thread Landsman, Arik
uot; -Andy From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:33 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 20

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-05 Thread Andy Walls
On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 00:00 +, Landsman, Arik wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Added a few comments inline (marked with "==" in lieu of a better email > client).. > > But overall corr_est works very consistently. I did have a few observations: Hi Arik: For my responses to the next two, I'm assuming

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-10 Thread Landsman, Arik
andsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; t...@trondeau.com Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk On Tue, 2016-04-05 at 00:00 +, Landsman, Arik wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Added a few comments inline (marked with "==" in lieu of

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-17 Thread Landsman, Arik
Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; t...@trondeau.com Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Andy, Sorry for delayed response, the weekend finally arrived.. added some comments inline below. Your comments on zero-IF receiving are well taken - go

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-17 Thread Landsman, Arik
python it into the Rx in a neat way. From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 7:44 PM To: Andy Walls Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; t...@trondeau.com Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Andy

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-18 Thread Andy Walls
PM > To: Andy Walls > Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; t...@trondeau.com > Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block > in qpsk > > Hi Andy, > > Just a quick update - I changed sps from 10 to 5 to repeat your trimming > procedure. Wor