Fwd: Desktops, Components and Roles

2005-02-11 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:51:04 +0800 Subject: Re: Desktops, Components and Roles To: Nicolas Roard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:00:56 +, Nicolas Roard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:51:33 +0100, Quentin Mathà <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 13 fÃvr. 05, à 23:46, Fabien VALLON a Ãcrit : > > Hi, > > > On 2005-02-13 19:57:54 +0100 Nicolas Roard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Yes, and no. We *want* a windows theme and a mac theme -- because > >> GN

Re: GWorkspace next release (Was: Re: GWorkspace's Tabbed Shelf)

2005-02-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:29:45 -0500, Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On February 17, 2005 12:30 pm, Enrico Sersale wrote: > > > I'm now merging Inspector.app back into the main application; after this I > > want to make a new release; In this phase, I'd like if people using > > GWo

Re: using tshelf

2005-02-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:57:21 -0500, Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On February 18, 2005 4:15 am, Rogelio M.Serrano Jr. wrote: > > > How do I add icons in the tshelf? I cant drag and drop on it and I > > cant copy paste on it. > > You can't drag and drop to the special tab. Creat

non pixel based graphics

2005-02-21 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Is it possible to use opengl style non pixel based drawing in GNUstep? And is it possible to use 3d for the icons? -- Blood is thicker than water... and much tastier John Davidorff Pell ___ Discuss-gnustep ma

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 00:40:36 +0800, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:07:42 -0500, Adrian Robert [snipped...] > > I'm not sure if this made it into GTK-2, but the GTK/Gnome-1 file > > dialog had really excellent filename completion abiliti

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:07:42 -0500, Adrian Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To answer the question: as long as GNOME have made their file > > dialogue make it obvious how to: > > * set the filename > > * set the directory (GNUstep's is a little weak on this) > > * set the file type, if such

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-11-10 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 11 Nov 2005 01:06:00 GMT, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Davidorff Pell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Part of the problem with GNUstep, and almost every Free/Open> application, is that there is almost never a major release in the > same sense as a major release of a closed-source commercia

Fwd: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-11-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message --From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Nov 18, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstepTo: John Davidorff Pell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>On 11/18/05, John Davidorff Pell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree, but I think

Fwd: Graphical Installers [was Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep]

2005-11-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message --From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Nov 18, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Graphical Installers [was Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep]To: Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11/12/05, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A

Fwd: Status of ProjectCenter development

2005-11-19 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message --From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Nov 20, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Status of ProjectCenter developmentTo: Serg Stoyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11/19/05, Serg Stoyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, everobydyFirst of all I want to

Re: Options and choises rant

2006-01-15 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 1/15/06, Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15 Jan 2006, at 10:28, Dennis Leeuw wrote:> The "make everybody happy" paradigm might be part of the open> source community, since it helps to get more developers, but to me> it sounds like a wrong design approach for the end user. T

gnustep dom objects

2006-02-11 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Is there a dom binding for gnustep and objc?-- SMS Global Ltd Short Message Service For Seafarers ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

spreadsheet engine

2006-05-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Anybody have any idea how to implement an improv like spreadsheet engine? Just the data model part. A straighforward implementation would be just a couple of tables and a set of formulas that is parsed and evaluated, yielding more tables. -- www.smsglobal.net SMS Global Ltd Short Message Service

Re: spreadsheet engine

2006-05-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 5/30/06, David Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rogelio Serrano wrote: > Anybody have any idea how to implement an improv like spreadsheet engine? > Just the data model part. There is/was a quantrix clone around. It is called flexisheet. Maybe you can help to make it at leas

design for linear multidocument display

2006-06-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
What is the best way to implement a multidocument scrolling view? With in place editing? -- www.smsglobal.net SMS Global Ltd Short Message Service For Seafarers ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/list

Re: design for linear multidocument display

2006-06-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 6/17/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the best way to implement a multidocument scrolling view? With in place editing? Sorry to reply to my own question but the pdf imaging model from the PDF reference pretty much covered the view part of the question. The e

cairo backend status

2006-08-14 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Did anybody have any progress with the cairo backend lately? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made 5.

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 15.08.2006 um 08:01 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > things i hate about my linux pc: > > 1. it takes more than a second to boot up > 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories > 3. does not remember what i was working

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/16/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 15.08.2006 um 08:01 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > > > things i hate about my linux pc: > > > > 1. it takes more than a second to boot up

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 16.08.2006 um 09:06 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > Well linuxbios can fix that. It can't. Shutting down a machine includes shutting down all apps, which in turn includes closing all documents. There are plenty situations you

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/16/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 16.08.2006 um 09:06 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > > > Well linuxbios can fix that. > > It can't. Shutting down a machine includes shutting d

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
> I just have to do something about it! > > an init replacement was the first step. Then next is a cairo driven > framebuffer based editor that will solve all my problems. The good thing here is, this obviously leads to a lean GNUstep implementation/installation as well, right? I hope so. imp

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 16.08.2006 um 10:42 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > Applications > dont matter to me anymore. all i want to see are documents. when i log > in i want to see the document im working on yesterady. when i look for > the docume

Re: gnustep.org hacked

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://gnustep.org/ I wasn't online for some days now, so I hope, the main site of the GNUstep project has been hacked and it's not true! Is it true? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. kee

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/16/06, Pete French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What matters is that when i get a good idea, i turn on my pc then > start typing. What you need is a notebook and a pencil :-) -bat. (or possibly plan9 which boots very fast as I recall) a 5 mhz computer was made to do exactly this a long t

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/18/06, Fred Kiefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rogelio Serrano schrieb: > On 8/16/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok back to cairo. It looks like nobody is working on it. Im going to > build cairo back in a uclibc based environment and hack it up

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/15/06, Pascal Bourguignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Rogelio Serrano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Did anybody have any progress with the cairo backend lately? > > -- > things i hate about my linux pc: > > 1. it takes more than a second to boot u

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/15/06, Pascal Bourguignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday Why? Its memory doesn't hold 8 hours? On my linux PC, when I leave the window of an application open, and when I come back to it a week later, it's still there... Reboot your ma

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/15/06, Pascal Bourguignon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made Do you have problems with your hard disk? No. I just hate making mistakes and have to retype the old values. I would like to have unlimited undo and redo. Specially for the cont

Re: cairo backend status

2006-08-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
In my pc i do 'ls -lct | xargs -i head {} | less' in my home dir. thats supposed to be 'ls -ct'. thats why i said it sort of works. -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was wo

really attracting developers

2006-08-25 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep? incomplete ide? incomplete nextstep based system? incomplete libraries? i don't buy the general applications unavailability argument. we are talking about people who want to create apps under gnustep. i don't buy the appearance argument either. -- t

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-25 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/25/06, Andreas Höschler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, > Whats keeping other developers from gnustep? > > incomplete ide? > incomplete nextstep based system? > incomplete libraries? > > i don't buy the general applications unavailability argument. we are > talking about people who want

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-25 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/25/06, Andrew Satori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't speak for other developers, but for me it's that GnuStep apps don't 'feel' native anywhere but in a full GnuStep workplace or when compiled as Cocoa apps on OS X. I think that reduces the acceptance by users (I know it did with my test

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-26 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/27/06, Philippe C.D. Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On 25.08.2006, at 12:05, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > Whats keeping other developers from gnustep? > > incomplete ide? > incomplete nextstep based system? > incomplete libraries? > > i don't buy the gen

work with non wimp platform?

2006-08-26 Thread Rogelio Serrano
How do we make gnustep work with a gui platform that does not use overlapping windows? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the c

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/28/06, Pete French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe Erico had a Window Maker bundle once. It would be nice if it > > can be revived. > > > > Yes but i tried to do significant work with that one last year but i > really don't have that much experience with x window manager programming

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/28/06, Chris Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-08-28 03:03:28 +0200 Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A new window manager needs to be written but then again its just a > very > big job. Is it really? All a _window_ manager has to do is _manage_ windows. That is,

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/28/06, Pete French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if the system become doc centered then all we need is the filesystem > browser and about 3 other tiles. I'm not sure what you mean by doc-centred to be honest - unless you mean reducing the application choice to a kind of 'open with' context

plugins or do?

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
im working with an iff formated file. whats the best way to handle the different media inside? use DO or plugins? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4.

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/29/06, Andrew Sveikauskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-08-28 07:43:08 -0400 Peter Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been running Terminal.app on NetBSD for ages, and apart from > some > cosmetic issues that I can't easily fix because of the > at-times-incomprehensible-genius of

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/29/06, Chris Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-08-28 19:57:06 +0200 Riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >>> incomplete libraries? >> That's open to debate. If you compare it to Cocoa, yes, it's >> "incomplete." >> Question is how far the completeness is supposed to go (with res

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/29/06, Chris Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-08-29 09:40:22 +0200 Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > i looked at amaya and i got stuck in the wxwindows parts too. but it > looks more promising than the others. maybe we need to come up with an &g

Fwd: plugins or do?

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Aug 29, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: plugins or do? To: Johannes Fortmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 8/29/06, Johannes Fortmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/28/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EM

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/30/06, Jason Clouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-08-29 17:07:47 -0400 Michael Hanni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just throwing an idea out here: would it be possible to bind directly > to KHTML > and skip the WebKit framework nightmare? [1] Somebody did this a few years ago, I think.

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/30/06, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/30/06, Jason Clouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006-08-29 17:07:47 -0400 Michael Hanni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just throwing an idea out here: would it be possible to bind directly > &

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/30/06, Tima Vaisburd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This topic deserves another message with a different subject line, here I can only say that it presents a natural obstacle for people who, like me, wants their work to be recognized by others. Thus the Nextbuntu's idea on removing this require

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-29 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/30/06, Gregory John Casamento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rogelio, What we need is a comprehensive test framework that will give a basis for comparison. We already have some tests, but they could be greatly expanded. Another issue to consider is that it's difficult to test gui elements i

build without gnustep-make

2006-08-30 Thread Rogelio Serrano
anybody building gnustep without gnustep-make? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made 5.cannot figure

Re: build without gnustep-make

2006-08-30 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 8/30/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 30.08.2006 um 09:23 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > anybody building gnustep without gnustep-make? GDL2 has a Xcode/ProjectBuilder project in SVN doing this. Last time I checked I could hardly find an advantage over -make, though

objc scene graph

2006-08-31 Thread Rogelio Serrano
anybody knows if there is one that exists? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made 5.cannot figure out

Re: really attracting developers

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: first place... Now I figured out that objective-c and windows libraries don't even compile together, there is very little I can do with my OSX code on a pc... I really would like to develop for gnustep. But: - it has to run on windows smoot

Re: really attracting developers

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 3, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Rogelio Serrano wrote: >> having a windows like gui. (Come on guys, windows is the most used >> platform! This would bring nextstep to the masses!) > > does that matter? seriously? if

Re: really attracting developers

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/4/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 14:58 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > nextstep is all about the vertical menus and left hand vertical scroll > > bar. its a complete ui design and it does not fit in windows. make it > > behave like windows and you j

beyond openstep?

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
is gnustep going where openstep did not intend to go? anybody want gnome and kde compatibility? -- the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum up my complaints in 5 items ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.g

Fwd: really attracting developers

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sep 4, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: really attracting developers To: phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 9/4/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 11:12 +0800, Rog

Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/4/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 21:08 -0700, Gregory John Casamento wrote: > Phil, > > phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If they cant bother to spend a couple of hours to knock up some sample > > programs, or build a few packages for the major distros (t

no window manager

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
who wants a non WIMP gnustep? -- the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum up my complaints in 5 items ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:26 +0100, Pete French wrote: > > to scroll down without a scrollwheel and without the keyboard I've to > > cross half of the screen to reach the scrollbar on the left side of the > Can anyone (try to) explain the merits o

Re: beyond openstep?

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, Riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, we will go "beyond optenstep" for sure. We are already making some small steps On Monday, September 4, 2006, at 05:28 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > is gnustep going where openstep did not intend to go? perhaps, but I woul

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The main strength of menus is cramming lots of options in a small space. What you gain on the swings you lose on the roundabouts. I particularly hate cascading menus because of the tendency of the subordinate menu to dissappear if you do not mov

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 03:21 +0200, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 05.09.2006 um 01:06 schrieb Pascal Bourguignon: > > > On NeXTSTEP, I just kept the menu out of screen, and configured the > > right button to pop it up under the mouse.[...] > > Clearly,

strategy to break the windows ui monopoly

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
any suggestions? i think the only way is put together a next like computer and have it used by first time users. sneaky marketing is needed here. this is war. windows ui design vs openstep ui. something needs to be done. -- the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum up my complaints in

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 12:38 +0800, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > On 9/5/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 03:21 +0200, Markus Hitter wrote: > > > Am 05.09.2006 um 01:06 schrieb Pascal Bo

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, Chris Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-09-05 13:52:25 +0200 Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The perennial debate > about what's good/bad in a user interface is, IMO, just a waste of > everyones > time. Amen to that. Especially since any 5 people w

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/5/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 05.09.2006 um 14:03 schrieb Rogelio Serrano: > isnt the extreme configurability going to > make the whole unwieldy? The whole X Windows and Motif system is configurable down into the smallest corner and most people live fi

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/6/06, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 06.09.2006 um 06:15 schrieb Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.: > if we could not agree where scrollbars should be then scrollbars > are bad > and i would rather not have them. same goes for the menubar. While I agree with your wishes for a lean GUI,

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/7/06, phil taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > really? it momentum thats sustaining it. and people who is unwilling to > find something new. I think you will find that the average user, who is not a hacker or an IT developer, will not find it acceptable to have to search for an i dont ma

Re: objc scene graph

2006-09-10 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 9/11/06, Philippe C.D. Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10.09.2006, at 15:16, Rogelio Serrano wrote: >> > a 2d scene graph. something like the fresco scene graph so it >> can be >> > manipulated via DO. >> >> Hmmm why 2D? What do you want to d

universal binaries

2007-01-13 Thread Rogelio Serrano
How does apple do it? With Mach-o? Can it be be done with elf too? Or is it enough to compile and cross compile and just put them all together in an application bundle? -- the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum up my complaints in 5 items _

Re: sBook5 source code now available

2007-01-17 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 16 Jan 2007 07:36:28 -0800, William F. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: see http://www.sbook5.com/ Not sure what the license is, but hopefully someone can do something interesting with it. I always wanted it to auto-categorize new entries into tabs (and query the user when a new tab needed t

nsrunloop is not using select?

2007-01-22 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Why is nsrunloop not using select? And how does nsconnection work with nsrunloop? And how does multithreaded nsconnections fit in an nsrunloop? ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnu

Re: nsrunloop is not using select?

2007-01-22 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 1/23/07, Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 23 Jan 2007, at 07:11, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > Why is nsrunloop not using select? It uses the best mechanism for the platform you are running on ... win32 uses waitformultipleobjects most unixes will use poll() b

Re: WebKit Bounty

2007-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/2/07, Chris B. Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keep in mind that the whole SVN checkout is roughly about 550MB of code... WebKit uses Xcode and/or Bakefiles. So you'll need to make yourself familiar with these and either need to figure out how they work with GNUstep or need to write each

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/2/07, Graham J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1 Mar 2007, at 22:19, Riccardo wrote: > Hi, > >> >> The toolbar separated from the document view is novel (OmniWeb >> <4.0 had the bookmarks inspector as a separate window, but IIRC >> that was it). OTOH, how much sense does that make? Fo

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/1/07, Camille Bourgoin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) the toolbar is separated from the document window. When you gather two documents together and the toolbar is integrated with the document : two toolbars (two window) became one toolbar => two documents became one document. This is an appl

Re: WebKit Bounty

2007-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/2/07, Michael Thaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is also WebKitQt which is a port of WebKit to Qt. It can be built with WebKit/WebKitTools/Scripts/build-webkit and there is QtLauncher, a simple example browser. There is no real full-featured browser using WebKitQt yet, but QtLaunche

Re: GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty)

2007-03-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/4/07, Gregory John Casamento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rogelio, > I dont think this is enough reason to invent a new ugly language. So we > can render broken pages properly. For apple maybe. Invent a new ugly language??? Heh. No one is doing anything of the sort. ObjC++ has been aro

Re: GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty)

2007-03-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/4/07, Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well its a mar of getting a usable xhtml application within certain >> constraints. I would like to ttehave it as soon as possible. How >> long would > it take to port webkit? From what's been said already in this thread, it sound

Re: GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty)

2007-03-04 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/5/07, Robert Slover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There, of course, now exists the official TidyLib, which I do not know a lot about, but it could be a useful tool in getting from the point of having a renderer that works with correct HTML/XML to one that can understand the bulk of the incorre

Re: GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty)

2007-03-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/5/07, Thom Cherryhomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do want to ask, have any of you actually done any of this sort of thing before? It always seems, every time I run a page that's been badly formatted through Tidy, it's a crap shoot as to whether it will wind up with the same visual represe

Re: GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty)

2007-03-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 5 Mar 2007 02:53:09 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > or pass html through html tidy first. It appears unnecessary to me to go that way because it first parses HTML into a tree, then fixes some things and writes out HTML just to parse it again... i thought that was a go

nextstep domain runtime libs

2007-03-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
in nextstep which libraries are the binaries in the respective domain linked to? are the "system apps" linked only to "system" runtime libs? -- the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum up my complaints in 5 items ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing

Re: SimpleWebKit (was GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty))

2007-03-19 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/19/07, Chris B. Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 19 Mar 2007 01:59:48 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I myself now start to wonder why WebKit was ever based on Objective-C++ [...] The fact that WebKit is based on KHTML may have had to do with that decision.

Re: SimpleWebKit (was GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty))

2007-03-22 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2007-03-18 20:07:17 -0400 Mark Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel compelled to mention the incredibly large amount of work that will be > required to bring SimpleWebKit up to a reasonable standard of web > compatibility. HTML, XHT

Re: SimpleWebKit (was GNUstep Web browser (was Re: WebKit Bounty))

2007-03-23 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/24/07, Helge Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 23, 2007, at 17:57, Nicolas Roard wrote: > But providing a browser implementing standard (X)HTML ? it's > not that hard imho. Well, its probably not hard from a functional point of view. But getting it sufficiently fast (especially CSS) mi

gworkspace shelf

2008-02-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
How stable is the gworkspace shelf now? The screenshot in the gworkspace page looks very functional. -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: gworkspace shelf

2008-02-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Feb 17, 2008 12:10 PM, Charles philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rogelio Serrano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How stable is the gworkspace shelf now? > > It has been very stable for a couple of years now. > > Charles > I meant the

Re: gworkspace shelf

2008-02-16 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Feb 17, 2008 12:55 PM, Charles philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rogelio Serrano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I meant the TShelf at the bottom of desktop window. 10 months I find > > it pretty much unusable. > > What problems do you h

widgets without using subwindow

2008-04-18 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Does it make sense to implement widgets without using a subwindow per widget? how does gnustep gui implement widgets? -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/d

spatial file manager

2009-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Is there a spatial file manager written with gnustep that i can hack up into a document oriented desktop? I have GWorkspace and if there is nothing else i will use it. -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnust

MVC

2009-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
is gnustep MVC? but to me gnustep seems to be hmvc -- Lay low and nourish in obscurity ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: spatial file manager

2009-03-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
I tried to use it before. There were some issues that i tried to fix but i was sidetracked by trying to fix everything at once. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > tell me if you use it. Does anybody use it? I was even thinking of > removing it. It does absolutely no

Re: [ANNOUNCE] SimpleAgenda 0.42

2011-05-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Philippe Roussel wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just released SimpleAgenda 0.42. SimpleAgenda is an easy to use > agenda and calendar application supporting events (appointments) and > tasks. For more informations, see > > http://coyote.octets.fr/simpleagenda > > Thanks

Re: [ANNOUNCE] SimpleAgenda 0.42

2011-05-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Philippe Roussel wrote: > Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 16:11 +0800, Rogelio Serrano a écrit : >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Philippe Roussel >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I've just released SimpleAgenda 0.42.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] SimpleAgenda 0.42

2011-05-05 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Philippe Roussel wrote: > Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 17:08 +0800, Rogelio Serrano a écrit : >> I checked. No link to lotus agenda at all. > > Ok, I'm lost here... > > Why should there be a link to Lotus Agenda on SimpleAgenda's website

OT: cross compile gcc objc is broken?

2011-05-28 Thread Rogelio Serrano
Sorry for the OT post but i understand that the objc maintainer is on this list too. -- quarq consulting: agile, open source ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

ximage vs pixmap in xlib backend

2011-05-31 Thread Rogelio Serrano
sorry for the n00b question but im studying the xlib backend and im wondering when to use pixmaps and ximage. -- quarq consulting: agile, open source ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discus

icon previews?

2011-06-03 Thread Rogelio Serrano
is there an icon preview impementaion for gnustep? -- quarq consulting: agile, open source ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

libart vs cairo

2011-06-08 Thread Rogelio Serrano
whats the main problem with the cairo as a backend? -- quarq consulting: agile, open source ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

  1   2   >