Re: Accepted devrooms

2012-11-09 Thread h...@computer.org
On 25 Okt., 11:42, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Am 25.10.2012 um 12:29 schrieb Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf: > > > Sadly we are not among them :-( > > Or we must do what many other projects are doing: organize our own > conference[s] (hackathons, AlpenSTEP, ...). I have no idea if it is possible >

Re: FOSDEM 2012

2012-03-28 Thread h...@computer.org
On 8 Dez., 09:52, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > Hi Friends, > I have just booked hotel&flight and have taken the opportunity to > create/update the wiki page: > >        http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/FOSDEM_2012 > > Hope to see some of you in Brussels (even if I have to share myself betw

Re: ANN: Paje 1.98

2012-03-28 Thread h...@computer.org
On 20 Dez., 13:16, Lucas Schnorr wrote: > Paje -http://paje.sf.net > > > I am pleased to announce the release of Paje 1.98. > > -- What's new in 1.98 -- > > * First release after almost five years: Paje is back > * Bug fixes for MacOSX - colors and large trace files > * Paje internals are exp

Re: FOSDEM GNUstep devroom preliminary schedule

2011-01-24 Thread h...@computer.org
On 24 Jan., 00:28, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Here is my preliminary schedule for our devroom: > > 13:00 - 13:30           GNUstep Developers      GNUstep Developer's   > Meeting > 13:30 - 14:15           Quentin Mathé           Étoilé: What has been   > done over the past year and what's ne

ANN: SWK has learned the first words of CSS

2010-12-08 Thread h...@computer.org
the latest version of SWK (Simple or Small WebKit) has learned some CSS... Working is: * handle

Re: Foundation.h help

2010-12-08 Thread h...@computer.org
On 29 Nov., 07:07, cbw2...@comcast.net wrote: > Using a programming book, one of the exercises has me try > > #import > int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) > > { > NSAutoreleasePool * Pool = [NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; > > NSLog (@"programming is fun"); > [pool drain]; > return 0; > > } >

Re: FisicaLab 0.2

2010-12-08 Thread h...@computer.org
On 6 Jul., 19:09, German Arias wrote: > FisicaLab > == > > FicaLab is an educational application to solve physics problems. It > comes with full documentation and examples. Available on English and > Spanish. > > What news? > === > > * Kinematics of circular motion (particles) > * Static o

List dead?

2010-05-04 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi all, is the GNUstep discussion list dead? The last posting was from 9th march. Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

GNUstep @ LinuxTag 2010? 9. - 12. June, Berlin

2010-05-04 Thread h...@computer.org
Anyone interested in presenting something? It appears that it is free of charge - we just need to bring equipment and people who can man a booth (for all 4 days). http://wiki.linuxtag.org/w/fp:Call_for_Projects *** Deadline for submissions: 24th March *** BR, Nikolaus __

Re: Renovating GNUstep Software Index into an App-Store...

2010-02-19 Thread h...@computer.org
On 19 Feb., 00:17, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Hi Nikolaus, > > I've started moving the discussion to a user page in our wiki: > > http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User:IOOI/GNUstepSoftwareIndex > > http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User:IOOI/GNUstepSoftwareIndex/Concept > > to keep everythi

Re: Renovating GNUstep Software Index into an App-Store...

2010-02-17 Thread h...@computer.org
Let's start with the data model. So, how does this work? As far as I understood the overview one has to start a project and define the data model first. > What I think we should start with the data model. Currently, we have   > these tables: > > I think most parts are self-explaning when one goes

Re: I lied

2010-02-16 Thread h...@computer.org
> I am asking for permission to do those > things myself and hopefully in the process get some other people as > excited as I am about the possibilities this environment presents. Welcome! You may need some logins and passwords to get access to the required tools, but just ask for it. > I am try

Re: Discuss-gnustep Digest, Vol 87, Issue 24

2010-02-16 Thread h...@computer.org
> You probably read me as harsher than necessary -- I'm truly neither > upset or angry with your proposal, it's just that it's clearly not the > current focus on the project, that other projects' goals would align Riccardo, Gregory and some others are very active in developing Applications in GAP.

Renovating GNUstep Software Index into an App-Store...

2010-02-15 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi all, recently there was the idea to improve and migrate our GNUstep Software Index http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/ into a real Application Store. And, it was proposed to make it a showcase for GSWeb (http:// wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Creating_A_Simple_GSWeb_Application). Since I have ni

Re: GNUStep parsing OSX binary plist changed?

2010-01-29 Thread h...@computer.org
On 29 Jan., 19:34, David Chisnall wrote: > Do we even support the OS X binary plist format?  It's undocumented, and you > can use plutil on OS X to create a property list in a documented format from > one. Yes. I think since at least 3 yerars. The format is AFAIK documented in CFLite which is

Pre-Meeting during FOSDEM 2010 Beer Event

2010-01-29 Thread h...@computer.org
I will go this year to the Beer Event [1]. I will try to wear the GNUstep T-Shirt plus an Openmoko Neo1973 on a Lanyard. So you should be able to identify me... Who else? Nikolaus [1] http://fosdem.org/2010/beerevent ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Di

Re: fosdem 2010 hotel

2010-01-29 Thread h...@computer.org
On 13 Jan., 15:48, David Chisnall wrote: > On 9 Jan 2010, at 20:07, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > > > Hi, > > > FYI: the Louise hotel seems to be full, so I booked a room in the   > > Argus hotel (http://www.hotel-argus.be/) like last year. > > Nicolas, Quentin (I think) and I managed to get in

Re: the FOSDEM 2009 videos are ready - now I need FTP space

2010-01-27 Thread h...@computer.org
On 26 Jan., 15:16, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > After almost a year I finally finished editing the recordings from   > last years GNUstep developers room. > > At first I wanted to upload the videos to some video portal (youtube,   > vimeo or something else) myself. Then I realized that youtube

Re: UIKit?

2010-01-02 Thread h...@computer.org
On 2 Jan., 19:03, David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Jan 2010, at 16:53, h...@computer.org wrote: > > > Unfortunately, it isn't. The main reason is that iPhone Apps don't use > > GUI (AppKit) but UIKit (which is similar but more a cousin than a > > twin) and heavily r

UIKit?

2010-01-02 Thread h...@computer.org
I recently got a specific request if mySTEP/QuantumSTEP is the right platform to port iPhone Apps to the Nokia 900. Unfortunately, it isn't. The main reason is that iPhone Apps don't use GUI (AppKit) but UIKit (which is similar but more a cousin than a twin) and heavily rely on CoreGraphics, CoreA

Re: Call for talks at our FOSDEM 2010 devroom (deadline 2010-01-03)

2010-01-02 Thread h...@computer.org
On 7 Dez. 2009, 23:04, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Hi Fred, > > thank you very much for your offer. I've added it to http:// > wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/FOSDEM_2010#List_of_submitted_talk. > 2Fdiscussion.2Fsession_proposals . Just two questions: Do you have a   > preference for the time of y

Re: So fast things can change - we got a FOSDEM devroom now! (was: Fwd: FOSDEM devroom request (GNUstep))

2009-12-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Dez., 23:05, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Hi list, > > I received the attached e-mail some minutes ago. Whatever magic   > happened here - we suddenly got a devroom - yay! > > It's just for one day (Sunday 7th February from 09:00 to 17:00) but   > that's way better than nothing. And our d

Re: FOSDEM 2010 devroom list is available

2009-12-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Dez., 22:54, David Chisnall wrote: > On 1 Dec 2009, at 18:52, h...@computer.org wrote: > > > I think it is not well known that there is also an offer from Mike > > Dexter fromwww.linuxfund.orgto sponsor GNUstep to reach more > > stability and visibility. Unfortun

Re: FOSDEM 2010 devroom list is available

2009-12-01 Thread h...@computer.org
olaus has already let the unpleasant news out of the bag: > > Am 01.12.2009 um 14:56 schrieb h...@computer.org: > > >http://www.fosdem.org/2010/list-devrooms-their-call-talks > > > but where is GNUstep? > > > Nikolaus > > So I guess there's no devroom at F

FOSDEM 2010 devroom list is available

2009-12-01 Thread h...@computer.org
http://www.fosdem.org/2010/list-devrooms-their-call-talks but where is GNUstep? Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: accessing/setting file name for NSSavePanel

2009-11-26 Thread h...@computer.org
On 26 Nov., 00:18, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > I want to manipualte the filename of a NSSavePanel while it is shown. > The events of the manipulation come from the accessoryview. I want to > read it, modify it and set it back depending on events coming from the > accessory view components. >

Re: 100 days until FOSDEM

2009-10-30 Thread h...@computer.org
On 29 Okt., 23:26, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > >> So to increase our chances to get a dev-room I am asking: does somebody > >> know other projects we could invite for a collaboration? Is somebody in > >> contact with those people? > > > I guess if Riccardo is going that means GAP will probab

Re: 100 days until FOSDEM

2009-10-29 Thread h...@computer.org
On 28 Okt., 23:11, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > and only 25 days until the deadline for dev-room applications:   > 2009-11-22. As I already mentioned, the FOSDEM greatly favors joint   > applications of cooperating projects. Here's a quote from their   > website: "Our goal is to stimulate deve

Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM 2010 6th and 7th February 2010

2009-10-20 Thread h...@computer.org
On 20 Okt., 12:19, David Chisnall wrote: > On 19 Oct 2009, at 23:36, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > > > currently only 4 people (including myself) have declared intend to   > > come to FOSDEM 2010. This is not to overwhelming if you ask me. Btw,   > > how about you, Nikolaus? Are you planning a

Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM 2010 6th and 7th February 2010

2009-10-20 Thread h...@computer.org
On 20 Okt., 00:36, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Am 17.10.2009 um 10:21 schrieb h...@computer.org: > > >> I think we may just not ask for the stand this year... just ask for a > >> dev-room. And only do a few talks (i.e., "State of GNUstep 2010") and >

Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM 2010 6th and 7th February 2010

2009-10-17 Thread h...@computer.org
> I think we may just not ask for the stand this year... just ask for a > dev-room. And only do a few talks (i.e., "State of GNUstep 2010") and > keep hacking the rest of the time. > Put posters pointing to the dev room in the hallway, and that's it! When looking at the recent growth of new member

Re: What is GNUStep used for?

2009-10-14 Thread h...@computer.org
On 15 Okt., 00:25, Gary Dumer wrote: > Exactly what is GNUStep used for? > > Here's what I can figure out: > > 1. It's not an operating system. > > 2. It's not a GUI builder. > > 3. It includes Objective-C as its main application building tool. > > 4. It has some really ugly, retro looking apps  (

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-13 Thread h...@computer.org
On 13 Okt., 10:34, Derek Fawcus wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Michael Thaler wrote: > > > Because of lack of developer resources. Browser is a huge and complex > > > project by itself. Second, it's really hard to implement such complex > > > project as web browser that based o

Re: SWI 2.7.0

2009-09-26 Thread h...@computer.org
On 16 Sep., 17:18, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > Am 16.09.2009 um 17:00 schrieb Truls Becken: > > > h...@computer.org wrote: > > About the search feature, though. Searching for GPS, PDF, FTP or > > GNUstep does not return anything. Do you know why that i

Re: SWI 2.7.0

2009-09-18 Thread h...@computer.org
On 16 Sep., 17:00, Truls Becken wrote: > Not all categories are listed, however. At least Applications is Would not have happened if written with Objective-C array enumerators instead of PHP :) Has been fixed now... > missing, which is a shame. Could the list be made dynamic to avoid > this pro

SWI 2.7.0

2009-09-15 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi all, I think I did now finally understand what some of you meant by removing duplicates in the list. Therefore, I have added such a feature in SWI 2.7.0. Please compare e.g. GNUstep Base in: 1) http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/showapps.php?cat=Framework 2) http://www.gnustep.org/softwareind

Re: gcc problem

2009-09-01 Thread h...@computer.org
> I am on Solaris x86 so this will probably be ac_cv_c_bigendian=no, but Well, building gcc from scratch on a non-GNU/Linux system needs a lot of tweaking and configuring of some "required tools and files". I have invested several months to build a completely working cross-toolchain with Obj-C, Li

Re: gcc problem

2009-08-31 Thread h...@computer.org
On 31 Aug., 10:09, Andreas Höschler wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to build gcc 4.4.1 for the most recent GNUstep/Etoile. When > I "make bootstrap" I get a bunch of error messages of the form > > /usr/src/gcc-4.4.1/objdir/./prev-gcc/xgcc > -B/usr/src/gcc-4.4.1/objdir/./prev-gcc/ > -B/usr/local/i

[ANN] Update for SimpleWebKit

2009-08-22 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi all, I have committed the latest additions to SimpleWebKit. Major changes are * added loading of CSS (sub)resources from * added parsing of CSS (including @media, @import etc.) * added a CSS Browser view to SWK-Browser (to compare Apple WebKit to SWK) * fixed some minor bugs in the XML parser

Re: why RMS not mention GNUSTEP?

2009-07-07 Thread h...@computer.org
> mentioned the project a bit more. Could you include some links to the > articles so we can check them out? I think the discussion refers to: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono Best regards, Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-g

Re: ANN: GShisen 1.3.0

2009-07-06 Thread h...@computer.org
On 6 Jul., 16:51, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:51 AM, h...@computer.org wrote: > > as a GNUstep AppStore? > > I.e. a downloader App that looks for new versions and offers to > > download/install them from the links to binaries or sources in the > &g

Re: ANN: GShisen 1.3.0

2009-07-06 Thread h...@computer.org
> WHERE TO GET IT: > >  From the GNUstep Application Project:http://gap.nongnu.org/gshisen/index.html > Please also add to http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex BTW: does anyone have looked into the idea to use http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/plist.php as a GNUstep AppStore? I.e. a down

NSSplitView - how to programmatically resize the subviews?

2009-03-31 Thread h...@computer.org
During the development of SWK, I came across the tag which is easily mapped to a NSSplitView. Execept one thing - the (initial) width of the subviews (rows or cols attribute). Well, NSSplitView since Cocoa 10.5 provides a method - (void) setPosition:(CGFloat) position ofDividerAtIndex:(NSInteger

NSXMLDocument (mySTEP)

2009-02-21 Thread h...@computer.org
>>>I have some code I wrote late last year that I haven't committed to >>>the base libaray ... just the headers and largely non-functional >>>skeletons of the implementation, but even so that's a little more >>>advanced than currently in mySTEP. >>The latest state is that simple XML files (without

Re: FOSDEM Aftermath - the Dev-Room

2009-02-16 Thread h...@computer.org
On 16 Feb., 14:28, David Chisnall wrote: > On 16 Feb 2009, at 07:42, h...@computer.org wrote: > > > > > Plus having more such developer weekends (Hackathon, WLAN party, etc.) > > to make coordinated progress. I think trying to squeeze both into a > > single activit

Re: FOSDEM Aftermath - the Dev-Room

2009-02-16 Thread h...@computer.org
On 15 Feb., 14:18, Nicolas Roard wrote: > > > d.) Having more meetings beside FOSDEM. I for instance have nice memories of > > the Alpenstep meeting. Let's have that again. > > yes, alpenstep was awesome ! > > > - Let's have another Alpenstep in late August (it was really nice then)! > > yes :)

GNUstep from SVN & permissions

2009-02-03 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi, before I waste a lot of time finding the missing link on this page: http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstep_SVN_installation_guide. let me ask. I try to install on Debian from SVN. Sources are unpacked and I follow the instructions but get permission problems. Because /usr/GNUstep and belo

Re: IMPORTANT: Materials for SCALE... need the old FOSDEM handouts and brocures..

2009-02-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Feb., 20:35, Gregory John Casamento wrote: > I would like the text to emphasize the fact that we're going more for Cocoa > now than for OpenStep.   Although we will always be OpenStep compatible, for > *marketing* purposes, we want to emphasize our strengths in the Cocoa arena.   Yes, some

Re: IMPORTANT: Materials for SCALE... need the old FOSDEM handouts and brocures..

2009-02-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Feb., 17:22, Nicolas Roard wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:34 PM, h...@computer.org wrote: > > On 1 Feb., 03:06, Jesse Ross wrote: > >> > I need to see if I can get hold of the materials that were created > >> > for FOSDEM a few years ago. > > &

Re: IMPORTANT: Materials for SCALE... need the old FOSDEM handouts and brocures..

2009-02-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Feb., 03:06, Jesse Ross wrote: > > I need to see if I can get hold of the materials that were created   > > for FOSDEM a few years ago. > > > I would like to update them and use them when I go to SCALE.. > > > Does anyone know where the original source files for this stuff is? > > > If not I

Re: Impelmenting NSWindows95InterfaceStyle

2009-01-19 Thread h...@computer.org
On 19 Jan., 09:15, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: > On 19 Jan 2009, at 06:54, h...@computer.org wrote: > > > > > On 19 Jan., 04:57, Germán Arias wrote: > >> Hi, after inspect the source of NSMenu.m and others files. I think   > >> that &g

Re: Impelmenting NSWindows95InterfaceStyle

2009-01-18 Thread h...@computer.org
On 19 Jan., 04:57, Germán Arias wrote: > Hi, after inspect the source of NSMenu.m and others files. I think that > I can try to implement the option NSWindows95InterfaceStyle. I have one > idea to do that, and I want know what do you think about this. > > Well, I think that the most easy and elega

Re: Can this be ported to GNUstep?

2009-01-15 Thread h...@computer.org
On 15 Jan., 23:33, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > This SIP VoIP program is obviously written using Cocoa: > > telephone - Google Code > > > > What do you think? Can it be ported to GNUstep? > > regards, > >         Lars Really interesting App! What I have

Re: Windows-/KDE-/Gnome-style menus (was: Question about NSMenuView)

2009-01-14 Thread h...@computer.org
On 15 Jan., 04:24, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 14.01.2009 um 22:08 schrieb Fred Kiefer: > > > Getting a menu inside of a window is not that easy. You will have to > > hack through NSMenu a bit. If you know what you are doing this is   > > fine, > > but don't expect to get every step explained by thi

Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM - status update - cancel it or not?

2009-01-12 Thread h...@computer.org
On 12 Jan., 14:18, David Chisnall wrote: > On 12 Jan 2009, at 01:49, gero...@bluewin.ch wrote: > > > I intend to come to FOSDEM. I would like to work on Flexisheet and   > > enter into discussions on the topic. For those > > interested, this is a Lotus Improv compatible multi-dimensional   > > spr

Re: GNUstep Software Index 2.6.0

2009-01-05 Thread h...@computer.org
On 31 Dez. 2008, 16:19, "Nicolas Roard" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM, h...@computer.org wrote: > > Hi all, > > as a Christmas present to all, I have reworked a small part of the > > Software Index scripts and now it is easier to manage and view > >

Re: our Devroom - what do we want to do there - call for papers

2009-01-04 Thread h...@computer.org
Ah, I didn't catch that tehre is no stand this year (I should better read the mails :-). So it is not so mutch switching between two parallel tasks. What I then would suggest is to even more focus on attractive titles so that it is not a GNUsteppers Meeting but someting which gets interested peop

Re: GNUstep developer meeting in January

2009-01-03 Thread h...@computer.org
> The main reason why the AlpenSTEP/FreiburgSTEP/OrobienSTEP workshop > series was born (and Gerold even invented the GNUstep cake) is that > FOSDEM simply leaves no time to discuss anything internally about the > project. Some guys have to be permanently at the tables and > demonstrate how GNUstep

Re: our Devroom - what do we want to do there - call for papers

2009-01-03 Thread h...@computer.org
On 30 Dez. 2008, 01:59, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Hi GNUsteppers, Étoilists and OpenGroupwarers, > > now that we've got our dev-room at FOSDEM it is now up to us to use   > that once in a lifetime (not really ;-)) chance for our purposes and   > as we think it's best. That can include talks

Re: GNUstep developer meeting in January

2009-01-03 Thread h...@computer.org
On 3 Jan., 17:48, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > > What actually is the point in this? I think this will effectively   > distracting possible attendees from FOSDEM because it is so close by   > (timewise) > > The points for FOSDEM are (IMHO): > > - it is located more centrally in Europe (means

[ANN] GNUstep Software Index 2.6.0

2008-12-25 Thread h...@computer.org
Hi all, as a Christmas present to all, I have reworked a small part of the Software Index scripts and now it is easier to manage and view multiple versions of an application. * when creating/editing you are asked if you want to fix the version number or create a new record for an existing applicat

Re: Paging for Saso and Gerold

2008-12-16 Thread h...@computer.org
On 16 Dez., 12:53, Saso Kiselkov wrote: > I am, but I'm kind of busy. We all are... And, what is your idea for the workshop? Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Paging for Saso and Gerold

2008-12-16 Thread h...@computer.org
Gerold, Saso, we haven't seen a response to our mails recently and we need you to arrange a pre-fosdem workshop... Are you still reading here? Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discus

Re: Fwd: [FOSDEM] Accepted: GNUstep+Eto ilé+OpenGroupware.org devroom

2008-12-01 Thread h...@computer.org
On 1 Dez., 20:46, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > GNUsteppers, Étoilists and OpenGroupwarers rejoice! > > We got our developers room for FOSDEM 2009. > > Now I am looking forward that this convinces some undecided minds to   > turn their heads around and come to FOSDEM next February. > > more lat

Re: Central GNUstep software index?

2008-04-28 Thread h...@computer.org
> So, to me it appears that there comes some consensus that it should be > used and extended. > > To do so, I think we should move the source code to the SVN repository > of the GNUstep pages - and somehow make it useable on the gnustep.org > web page. Then, we can use GNUstep bugtracker to handle

Re: Central GNUstep software index?

2008-04-22 Thread h...@computer.org
On 23 Apr., 00:32, Riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > > PLEASE try to add/update things! I haven't seen any change requests so > > far and this experience is important for your evaluation. > > I think the idea is nice. It doesn't look even that bad on my > computer, so I guess it is

Re: Porting WebKit again

2008-01-08 Thread h...@computer.org
Just a note: Riccardo has reported about the latest status of Vespucci/SimpleWebKit in his blogs http://multixden.blogspot.com It appears that the redesign from scratch as an Objective-C only framework starts to pay off. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list