Okay…that definitely helped our site
get rid of all that whitespace. Thanks for the help guys! But here’s a new challenge for us.I
was wondering if you guys could help us get something going at the top of all
our pages. We need to put a <DOC> tag at the top of all of our pages
eventually…but there are soooo many pages. Is there a way to globally
apply that <DOC> tag to all of our pages from the CF admin? I know that
HTML and CF are embedded to one another, so is there some kind of script /
setting that we can make / change to make a <DOC> tag appear on all of
our pages? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again guys for the
help earlier. It’s almost time for me to
cf_signout from work hahaaaa…that was lame I know. Happy Friday everyone. From: Robert Reil
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW guys! This is awesome. I could have googled it but in the past I
have found that my selection of keywords if poor as I don’t yet know the
language to search in. So its just easier with my insane schedule
to just ASK. I was always taught that there is no such thing as a stupid
question except the one not asked... So I asked. This is all exciting news as now we have
efficient info to study to decide the best solution. Charlie, Dean, I know Im a pain on here
sometimes but I am really trying to find my way. (or maybe Im just
“trying” your patience.) Either way THANKS TO ALL! You guys (and gals) ROCK! Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com,
Inc. 4292 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 From: Charlie Arehart
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert, there are many solutions, 3
specific tags, 2 tags with related output control, one admin console
setting, a new feature in CFMX 7 that might be helpful, and a couple of
approaches not related to CFML. Pardon the few paragraphs to explain it all,
but each has difference nuances and indeed offers varying levels of suppression
and has slightly varying purpose (which reflect the evolution of CFML over
time). First, there are 3 tags: <cfprocessingdirective
suppresswhitespace="Yes"> ... do whatever
It's described as controlling "whether to suppress white space
characters within the cfprocessingdirective block that are generated by CFML tags
and often do not affect HTML appearance. Does not affect any white space in
HTML code.". That's its intent, anyway. I think
people have had varying experience, but I could be wrong. Note that with that tag you MUST
offer a closing tag--and it has to be in one template, can't be split with one
in the application.cfm, and the closing in the onrequestend.cfm. :-) Still another tag is <CFSILENT></CFSILENT>.
It's described as, "Suppresses output produced by CFML within a tag’s scope.
". Again, this is a paired tag and both must be in a single template
(can't be split up). An older form is: <cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="Yes"> which doesn't require a closing tag. With
it, then the ONLY output generated from the CFML page (including HTML tags and
static text) will be that placed within a CFOUTPUT statement. Again, even to
write out an html tag and/or static text, you'd need to wrap it (or a big block
of it) in a CFOUTPUT. This often confuses people, either because they forget
it's on and wonder, "where's my text"? Or they turn it on
intentionally and forget to wrap static text in it and wonder, "why isn't
this showing up?" Note that if you want to turn it back
on (or off, depending on how you look at it), you use </cfsetting
enablecfoutputonly="no">. And note also that this CAN indeed be
split over multiple files within a request. Another source of confusion with these
approaches is the question of whether they impact included files and
custom tags. There are differences between them in this regard, I'm pretty
sure, and may be differences in behavior regarding that between CF and BD, as
well as within different versions of each. Again, this stuff has been evolving
over time. Still another way to control output, in
CFCs (CFCOMPONENT) and CFC methods and UDFs (using CFFUNCTION) is their
available OUTPUT attribute. OUTPUT="no/false" can also be used to
prevent any output being generated from the method, at all (again, even static
text). OUTPUT="yes/true" may not be obvious. It indicates that
the body is to act like it's all inside a CFOUTPUT, so you can drop in
references to variables for output and they are evaluated, again, just as if
within a CFOUTPUT tag. If you specify no OUTPUT attribute at all, then things
work like any normal CFML page. Finally, there is also an Admin console
setting to suppress whitespace, which suppresses white space globally (all
apps). Since you can't too easily use CFSILENT and the CFPROCESSINGDIRECTIVE
variant in the application.cfm, it's another way folks try to achieve
suppression. Again, there are nuances, that are worth exploring before you
enable it, and I'll note also differences between CF and BD in this
regard. Oh, a couple last ideas: if you want to take
CFML out of the picture, and just feel that CF pages in general generate too
much white space, you could also consider a Servlet Filter. They can process
page output after the request and could be used to remove excessive whitespace.
It's not trivial to do correctly, but there are ones out there (from the Java
world). I wrote about them in a Feb 2003 CFDJ article, "Fun with
Filters", at http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41574.htm. (Actually, that reminds me that in CFMX 7,
you could also do something like that (manually remove excessive whitespace) in
the new application.cfc onrequestend method.) And last but not least, as John talked
about at the ACFUG meeting, you could also ask the web server to do gzip
compression of all (or some) pages. Note that this does not REMOVE the
whitespace, but it compresses the page so that during transfer from server to
client the penalty of it is lessened. It's worth noting that the whitespace
will still remain in the browser, and while browsers generally ignore it, it
still could impact the speed with which the browser page loads (and possibly
other behavior, since again the whitespace is indeed still there.) Hope that helps. /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Is there a way to have CF output a page
with no whitespace in the source code? Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com,
Inc. 4292 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852
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