Re: who has time for the GA?

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hello Daniel, Am Donnerstag 30 August 2018 21:28:21 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > There is a big difference: those other groups didn't promise people > democracy, membership and representation.  FSFE did. FSFE did not (as Harald and others have pointed out in detail), it cannot, as it does not make se

Re: to git or not to git

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 07:04:05 schrieb Bastien: > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.en.html Not taking new developments into account, though as the last evaluation came from 2016-04-13. -- FSFE -- Founding Member Sup

Re: What should the FSFE provide (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-08-30 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 30. August 2018 09.45.15 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > some of your topics are very interesting, thanks for the feedback! Thank you for indulging me in this discussion which has probably covered more ground already than many previous discussions on some of these topics. My apologies

Re: who has time for the GA?

2018-08-30 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 30/08/18 14:49, Nikos Roussos wrote: >> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual >> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide >> regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either >> they don't run for re-election or the

Re: who has time for the GA? (was: terminating memberships responsibly)

2018-08-30 Thread Mirko Boehm
Hello, > On 30. Aug 2018, at 07:34, Carsten Agger wrote: > > > On 08/30/2018 03:49 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: >>> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual >>> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide >>> regular renewal. When somebody doesn

Re: who has time for the GA? (was: terminating memberships responsibly)

2018-08-30 Thread Carsten Agger
On 08/30/2018 03:49 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either they don't run for re-election or the com

Re: to git or not to git

2018-08-30 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 07:04:05AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > Hi Alessandro, > > Alessandro Rubini writes: > > > How does the free software community feels in this respect? > > There is this: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criter

Re: who has time for the GA? (was: terminating memberships responsibly)

2018-08-30 Thread Nikos Roussos
> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual > elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide > regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either > they don't run for re-election or the community will help them depart by > voting

Re: to git or not to git

2018-08-30 Thread Bastien
Hi Alessandro, Alessandro Rubini writes: > How does the free software community feels in this respect? There is this: https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.en.html HTH, -- Bastien __

Is organisational identity the key to all of this?

2018-08-30 Thread Jonke Suhr
Hey all, Daniel wrote on February 1st 2018: > Understanding where the organization will go beyond the extinction of > the fellowship representative is critical. The Identity review process, > championed by Jonas Oberg and Kristi Progri, is actively looking at > these questions. Please contact K

Re: who has time for the GA?

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Daniel, Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 23:03:41 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > Do you notice how in my own message, I made significant effort to avoid > being personal: instead of a focus on Bernhard's situation, I draw upon > a mixed set of examples from multiple people.  this I appreciate. However the p

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-30 Thread Erik Albers
On 29.08.2018 22:57, Daniel Pocock wrote: > If you look at any of the significant resignations of CEOs or political > leaders, it is usually the same pattern: they have done many good things > but then they made one miscalculation and they have to go for the good > of the organization. > > Somebod

Re: The take-away message?

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi Joe, Am Donnerstag 30 August 2018 09:57:04 schrieb Joe Awni: > I see the same patterns showing up in this discussion again and again. to me there are two topics: * How should FSFE improve involving supporters and active Free Software people? * What is respectful behaviour and how do we

The take-away message?

2018-08-30 Thread Joe Awni
I see the same patterns showing up in this discussion again and again. Most reasonable, sane, and modern people would have quietly excused themselves from fruitless communication. I would like to do the same, but my obligation will not allow it. I've been privately corresponding with a number of f

What should the FSFE provide (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi Paul, some of your topics are very interesting, thanks for the feedback! Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 18:17:46 schrieb Paul Boddie: == FSFE offerings of personal blogs > It is interesting to bring up the blog service because there were moves to > abolish it, presumably so that only the planet