On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-16 Thread Carsten Agger
Yesterday, I received a LinkedIn email from a talent scout at Uber asking if I'd like to work on their core infrastructure. My reply: "Thanks for reaching out, but this is not something I am interested in. A bit on principle, as I won't work with Uber on the grounds that * their apps are not

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-16 Thread Charles Cossé
It's even worse than that: Uber's self-driving fleet On Fri, De

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 16/12/16 18:34, Charles Cossé wrote: > It's even worse than that: Uber's self-driving fleet >

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread mray
On 17.12.2016 07:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Elevators used to have drivers before computers were invented > Very good point. I'd love to know that even elevators run free software, though. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Charles Cossé
What would that matter? On Dec 17, 2016 8:55 AM, "mray" wrote: > > > On 17.12.2016 07:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > Elevators used to have drivers before computers were invented > > > > Very good point. > I'd love to know that even elevators run free software, though. > > > __

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/12/16 18:46, Charles Cossé wrote: > What would that matter? > If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay service charges to the company that maintains it. If the software and specifications are free, you have a wider choice of companies to maintain the elevator

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Jonas Oberg
Hi, > I'd love to know that even elevators run free software, though. They do, to a point. Of course it varies, but I recently spoke to a company refurbishing old elevators. Their control software was built on Wind River Linux. Admittedly, there's a lot still to do until the entire stack is free

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread André Ockers
Hi, Op 17-12-16 om 20:13 schreef Daniel Pocock: > On 17/12/16 18:46, Charles Cossé wrote: >> What would that matter? > If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay > service charges to the company that maintains it. > > If the software and specifications are free, you have

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Charles Cossé
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay > service charges to the company that maintains it. > > With all due respect, where's the motivation for the poor bugger who writes the free software? I believe that t

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Carsten Agger
On 12/17/2016 08:29 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Pocock > wrote: If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay service charges to the company that maintains it. With all due respect, where's the mo

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/12/16 20:36, Carsten Agger wrote: > > > On 12/17/2016 08:29 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Pocock >> <dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: >> >> >> If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay >> service

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Charles Cossé
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Carsten Agger wrote: > > On 12/17/2016 08:29 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Pocock < > dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: > >> >> If you own an apartment in a building with elevators, you have to pay >> service charges to the compan

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Theo Schmidt
Hi, On 12/16/2016 06:34 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: It's even worse than that: Uber's self-driving fleet How about https://github.com/commaai/openpilot On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Carsten Agger mailto:ag...@modspil.dk>> wrote: Yesterday, I received a LinkedIn email from a talent scou

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Joe Awni
Theo, It's an uphill battle. If you want to join a professional network that does not spam and is made with 100% FOSS, i can recommend the Crypto-Currency Business Directory: http://cryptobiz.directory -Joe On 17 December 2016 at 15:36, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/16/2016 06:34 PM, Ch

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On Saturday 17. December 2016 20.48.24 Charles Cossé wrote: > > I'm all about free software, and paying to develop free software is a step > in the right direction, but still ... the likelihood that the software > would even benefit another elevator manufacturer seems unrealistic ... This is wher

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Charles Cossé
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/16/2016 06:34 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: > >> It's even worse than that: Uber's self-driving fleet >> > > How about > https://github.com/commaai/openpilot Cool, now Uber can take that Free Software and use it to put more people

Fwd: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-17 Thread Charles Cossé
Hi Paul, is it for me to respond? Hmm I'll give it a shot ... On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Saturday 17. December 2016 20.48.24 Charles Cossé wrote: > > > > I'm all about free software, and paying to develop free software is a > step > > in the right direction, but st

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread mray
On 17.12.2016 18:46, Charles Cossé wrote: > What would that matter? > The question is "why would it not matter?" Free Software seems like a sensible default. Why would I ever *prefer* trusting my body/life with software that is a secret to everybody but the manufacturer? (Same with all kinds of

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread Charles Cossé
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:35 AM, mray wrote: > > On 17.12.2016 18:46, Charles Cossé wrote: > > What would that matter? > > > > The question is "why would it not matter?" > Free Software seems like a sensible default. > > Why would I ever *prefer* trusting my body/life with software that is a >

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread Carsten Agger
On 12/18/2016 08:03 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:35 AM, mray > wrote: On 17.12.2016 18:46, Charles Cossé wrote: > What would that matter? > The question is "why would it not matter?" Free Software seems like a sensible default.

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread Charles Cossé
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Carsten Agger wrote: > > [...] > > The questions you ask here are very basic and can be answered by yourself > if you read the articles at > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html carefully. > Yes, thank you, I've read it several times in the past 20 ye

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Charles Cossé wrote: I get the feeling that the FSF communities hold an underlying belief that the freedom being espoused is somehow fundamental, as in a universal truth or moral oblication. Software freedom is an ethical issue for the free software movement. This is one of the defining charac

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread Charles Cossé
Greetings, at some point I will become guilty of engaging in redundant conversation . Initially in this thread I merely sought to agree that Uber were undermining not only other taxi drivers, but their own taxi drivers, as I believe tha

Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-19 Thread Torsten Grote
On 12/18/2016 05:36 PM, Charles Cossé wrote: > I don't believe that the apparent irony of "freedom to license how you > like" is addressed in those documents. FSF is just more concerned about the user's freedom to control their own computing rather than the developer's freedom to license their cod

Fwd: Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread Paul Boddie
Charles, [Message was originally a private response, now forwarded to the list with permission.] > Hi Paul, is it for me to respond? Hmm I'll give it a shot ... Sure, but did you not also mean to reply to the list? ;-) > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > > On Saturday 17.

FreeSoftware Jobs was:Re: On receiving an interview request from Uber

2016-12-18 Thread amunizp
El 17 de diciembre de 2016 20:47:34 GMT+00:00, Joe Awni escribió: >Theo, > >It's an uphill battle. > >If you want to join a professional network that does not spam and is >made >with 100% FOSS, i can recommend the Crypto-Currency Business Directory: >http://cryptobiz.directory > Does that have a