Effective campaigning (was: Re: negative campaigning?)

2017-08-20 Thread Matthias Kirschner
After thinking more about it, I have the feeling than instead of discussing about negative vs positive campaigning it might be better to focus on thinking about the characteristics of effective campaigning. On that topic, I can strongly recommend the book "Join the Club: How Peer Pressure Can

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-31 Thread Paul Boddie
prietary social networks aggregate your data and sell it, which may > violate your privacy.” - a neutral, fact-based message that conveys a clear > problem. Not negative campaigning. Good. Right. But the problem here is that a lot of people don't know which social networks are proprietary. Maybe t

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-31 Thread Mirko Boehm - FSFE
Hello, I am one of the people that have argued against negative campaigning in the past. From the discussion however, even after many emails there is still not a common understanding what it is. Daniel gave some examples, let me build on top of that: “Free Software is good as it gives you

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, he has a point. This can be associated with a losing party by some people. However, since I don't know if he considers "negative campaigns" as "those saying things without facts and references being exposed" or if he considers "negative campaigns" as "those merely based on insults". I

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Davide Baldo
I would like to add just that a simple consideration into the table: negative campaign doesn't propose a solution, it may be present in the initial message but it would most likely be lost when referring to a friend. Also a negative message is usually associated with a losing party.

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Federico Bruni
I guess that everybody has a different idea of what "negative campaigning" may be. I like how Daniel tried to frame the discussion below. Il giorno gio 27 lug 2017 alle 9:17, Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> ha scritto: On 27/07/17 00:36, Federico Bruni wrote: It

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Alessandro Rubini
> [...] let's consider the advantages of negative campaigning: > + it increases the reach of a message (due to its emotional nature) Or not. In Europe we are "shocked", "outraged", "indignados" every day. We've got enough of that. Negative messages have no e

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-28 Thread Ioli Papadopoulou
quot;. It is true, everybody understands it and it is not aggressive. Hi Ioli It looks like your opinion is the opposite of Daniel's opinion. He's saying that we, as free software activists, should do _more_ negative campaigning. Why? Beca

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-26 Thread Ioli Papadopoulou
oli On 26/7/2017 1:14 μμ, Daniel Pocock wrote: This was raised by Jonas in the thread about proprietary software, but it is a completely different topic, so I'm starting this thread about it: "we also don't do negative campaigning ov

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-26 Thread Carsten Agger
On 07/26/2017 12:14 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > This was raised by Jonas in the thread about proprietary software, but > it is a completely different topic, so I'm starting this thread about > it: "we also don't do negative campaigning overall. We tell people they > should use

negative campaigning?

2017-07-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
This was raised by Jonas in the thread about proprietary software, but it is a completely different topic, so I'm starting this thread about it: "we also don't do negative campaigning overall. We tell people they should use Free Software; we don't tell them what software they should not be