Re: Silent majority (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-06 Thread lukerogers
I didn't start this thread to "win", I started this thread to say I will quit if things don't change.  That is my right.  Lot's of groups doing great things who deserve my money. After watching the replies, now my decision is clear. -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted

Re: Silent majority (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-06 Thread Stefan Uygur
Reinhard, You are reading and agreeing only now on this statement while l asked the exact same in the very beginning of the flame? Pls do your homework before playing mastermind here. I am speechless really. On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, 09:08 Reinhard Müller, wrote: > Dear [formerly] silent majority,

Re: Silent majority (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-06 Thread Reinhard Müller
Dear [formerly] silent majority, Thank you so much for speaking up now and with very clear words. We hear you. Now everybody let's get back to constructive work for Free Software. Thanks, -- Reinhard Müller * Financial Team Free Software Foundation Europe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Silent majority (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-06 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-09-06 07:25:12, b...@gnu.org wrote: In any case, please keep in mind that some readers may be completely lost and partially fed up with the spectacle. Thanks, -- Bastien Could not agree more. I became a supporter back in June, I joined the list at roughly the same time. Since then,

Silent majority (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-05 Thread bzg
Hi all, I don't know nothing about what's been talked about in this thread. This is just a reminder that there are probably many subscribers like me who don't have a clue of what is at stake here. Perhaps you should gather in a field, organize a tournament and come back when someone wins -- or

Re: what makes a good president and chairperson? (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-04 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi Daniel, Am Montag 03 September 2018 19:04:25 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > The ideal president or chairperson needs to be somebody who can unite > staff, volunteers, fellows, supporters, donors and external parties.  To > chair meetings, lead effectively and gain respect when representing FSFE >

Re: what makes a good president and chairperson? (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-09-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 30/08/18 10:17, Erik Albers wrote: > > And Matthias currently has full support by the staffers. The ideal president or chairperson needs to be somebody who can unite staff, volunteers, fellows, supporters, donors and external parties.  To chair meetings, lead effectively and gain respect when

Re: What should the FSFE provide (was: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-08-30 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 30. August 2018 09.45.15 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > some of your topics are very interesting, thanks for the feedback! Thank you for indulging me in this discussion which has probably covered more ground already than many previous discussions on some of these topics. My

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-30 Thread Erik Albers
On 29.08.2018 22:57, Daniel Pocock wrote: > If you look at any of the significant resignations of CEOs or political > leaders, it is usually the same pattern: they have done many good things > but then they made one miscalculation and they have to go for the good > of the organization. > >

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Daniel, Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 22:57:18 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > If you look at any of the significant resignations of CEOs or political > leaders, it is usually the same pattern: they have done many good things > but then they made one miscalculation and they have to go for the good > of the

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-30 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi Paul, Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 19:02:48 schrieb Paul Boddie: > Certainly, using the construct of the Fellowship to facilitate wider > participation in executive decision-making appears to have failed. even this I would not unconditionally agree too. The fellowship has help us to grow and to

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-29 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 29. August 2018 09.17.56 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > Am Dienstag 28 August 2018 16:28:44 schrieb Paul Boddie: > > I do recognise the > > effort made by both staff and volunteers within the FSFE, but I do also > > recognise the frustration some people have that their involvement

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-29 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi, Am Dienstag 28 August 2018 17:32:20 schrieb Michael Kesper: > Real membership was invite-only and restricted to about a dozen people. > Nowadays everyone can apply for it. note that Michael writes about the formal membership of the e.V. which is a legal backbone of the FSFE (but not

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-29 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi Paul, Am Dienstag 28 August 2018 16:28:44 schrieb Paul Boddie: > I do recognise the > effort made by both staff and volunteers within the FSFE, but I do also > recognise the frustration some people have that their involvement with the > organisation is largely confined to paying their

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-28 Thread Christian Kalkhoff
Hi Luke, Am Dienstag, 28. August 2018, 10:18:11 CEST schrieb lukerog...@tutanota.com: > No more elections? My fellowship contribution isn't going to FSFE next > year, give the money to a local group where everything is done by > volunteers and not careerists in Berlin. Thank your ongoing

Salary details (was Re: supporting our fellowship representative)

2018-08-28 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 28. August 2018 11.09.09 Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > Am Dienstag 28 August 2018 10:18:11 schrieb lukerog...@tutanota.com: > > The FSFE transparency pages are hilarious. FSFE chose the transparency > > checklist from Transparency International because it lets them have > > transparency

Re: supporting our fellowship representative

2018-08-28 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi Luke, Am Dienstag 28 August 2018 10:18:11 schrieb lukerog...@tutanota.com: > I never saw an association cancel the elections.  Is that legal? that is only part of the story: Legally there is an association based on German law to support FSFE's work where we have chosen a minimal approach for