2009/11/29 martin f krafft :
> also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.2101
> +0100]:
>> > To remove redundancy, you'd have to remove the metadata from the
>> > binary packages. That's surely doable, but would also mean that
>> > a single .deb file would become useless: you could not obtain met
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.2101 +0100]:
> > To remove redundancy, you'd have to remove the metadata from the
> > binary packages. That's surely doable, but would also mean that
> > a single .deb file would become useless: you could not obtain meta
> > data from it, and in particular
2009/11/29 martin f krafft :
> also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1948
> +0100]:
>> Not really. It's possible to standardise just on shared libraries for
>> example. Providing the software is self-contained, it will be able to
>> work on compliant distributions if it just uses those librar
Sorry, accidentally pressed send...
2009/11/29 :
> Yes, in some ways that would be nice, but there'd be disadvantages.
> First of all, as I just wrote, dependence on commercial players
> would shrink, so don't expect much support from them. Second, the
> one-size-fits-all distro just doesn't exi
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1948 +0100]:
> Not really. It's possible to standardise just on shared libraries for
> example. Providing the software is self-contained, it will be able to
> work on compliant distributions if it just uses those libraries to
> interact with the system and
2009/11/29 :
> also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1618
> +0100]:
>> It's the same here, except that instead of money you're investing
>> time, and instead of education you get a more efficient system. At
>> least that's how I see it. I might be wrong and this system might
>> not be more e
also sprach Tom Arnold [2009.11.29.1230 +0100]:
> I know there have been many attempts and I think it is kind of sad
> that RH, Novell and Debian can't agree on something LSB-based.
> Serving users is never wrong and it would certainly make the pie
> bigger for everybody.
But smaller for the comm
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1618 +0100]:
> It's the same here, except that instead of money you're investing
> time, and instead of education you get a more efficient system. At
> least that's how I see it. I might be wrong and this system might
> not be more efficient, if so then I
2009/11/29 Seth Vidal :
> The distros did agree on the LSB which requires that all distros be able to
> read/convert/install rpm v3 packages.
>
> which, I believe, they all can.
If that is the case, then that solution needs a reboot or a better
marketing/education campaign.
I haven't seen any thi
2009/11/29 martin f krafft :
> also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1049
> +0100]:
>> > Do you have any estimation how long it would take for the time
>> > invested into development, deployment, and bug fixing to be
>> > amortised?
>> >
>> No, I don't unfortunately. That would require at lea
Tom Arnold writes:
> I agree that this might be unreasonable, but all progress depends on
> the unreasonable man, right?
> A format supported by rpm and deb distros (and others) would be great
> win for Linux.
No one in this thread has presented any position that contradicts what
you say here, s
I agree that this might be unreasonable, but all progress depends on
the unreasonable man, right?
A format supported by rpm and deb distros (and others) would be great
win for Linux.
Just yesterday _I_ had to help friends I had converted to Linux
because onlinetvrecorder.com only offers a tgz for t
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.29.1049 +0100]:
> > Do you have any estimation how long it would take for the time
> > invested into development, deployment, and bug fixing to be
> > amortised?
> >
> No, I don't unfortunately. That would require at least calculating the
> time invested by m
2009/11/28 :
> also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.28.1600
> +0100]:
>> > Don't get me wrong, you have a noble goal, but if my experience
>> > with vcs-pkg.org is any indication, then the aforementioned
>> > large distros don't care.
>> >
>> > Why should Debian, RedHat/Fedora, and probably No
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky [2009.11.28.1600 +0100]:
> > Don't get me wrong, you have a noble goal, but if my experience
> > with vcs-pkg.org is any indication, then the aforementioned
> > large distros don't care.
> >
> > Why should Debian, RedHat/Fedora, and probably Novell/OpenSuse
> > abando
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