Re: [Distutils] More Windows questions

2006-10-03 Thread Chris Lambacher
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:12:32AM -0400, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 12:15 AM 10/4/2006 -0400, Chris Lambacher wrote: > >You might need ctypes or win32all or a C > >extension to figure out what permissions a user has. > > Well, I suppose I could just try modifying the registry. :) The big > que

Re: [Distutils] More Windows questions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:15 AM 10/4/2006 -0400, Chris Lambacher wrote: >You might need ctypes or win32all or a C >extension to figure out what permissions a user has. Well, I suppose I could just try modifying the registry. :) The big question is whether that causes a bunch of warnings to pop up, or triggers ant

Re: [Distutils] More Windows questions

2006-10-03 Thread Chris Lambacher
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:10:49PM -0400, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Okay, I've looked at the registry a bit, and it seems like I can register > App Paths either under HKLM (for the whole machine) or under HKCU (for the > current user). However, both seem to have issues. > > Under later versions o

[Distutils] More Windows questions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
Okay, I've looked at the registry a bit, and it seems like I can register App Paths either under HKLM (for the whole machine) or under HKCU (for the current user). However, both seem to have issues. Under later versions of Windows, especially when not running with administrative privileges, th

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:14 PM 10/3/2006 -0400, bear wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>RPM-Based Systems >>= >> >>Install setuptools using the provided source RPM. The included ``.spec`` >>file assumes you are installing using the default ``python`` executable, >>and is thus not specific to a particu

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:12 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >Also, the automatic pause would annoy me. How would you make it *not* >happen if I ran the command from a console window I already had open? The idea would be to register a separate "easy_install-win.exe" under "easy_install" in App Paths. This ver

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread bear
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Windows > === > > Install setuptools using the provided ``.exe`` installer. If you've > previously installed older versions of setuptools, please delete all > ``setuptools*.egg`` files from your system FIRST. > > If you are upgrading a previous version of setuptools t

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >IMHO, no. Your particular suggestions would annoy me immensely, > > Are you sure? Two points here, that I think you're not noticing: > > 1. Registering an "App Paths" entry for easy_install would simply make it > *possible* to type "easy_ins

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:43 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Should we make more effort to create a usable command-line experience on >>Windows? Perhaps use a post-install script to register easy_install so it >>works from "Start/Run", with an automatic p

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:40 PM 10/3/2006 -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >Wouldn't it be easier to just tell them to do "sh > >./setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg" instead of marking it executable first? > > I found the phrasing much more awkward that way, as it led to ha

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:40 PM 10/3/2006 -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: >Wouldn't it be easier to just tell them to do "sh >./setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg" instead of marking it executable first? I found the phrasing much more awkward that way, as it led to having to explain the idea that it's got a shell script in there

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for any feedback people might have, on the installation process > itself or on the directions. Some particular areas of question/concern: Looks fine for Windows. > * Should we make more effort to create a usable command-line exp

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cygwin, Mac OS X, Linux, Other > == > > 1. Download the appropriate egg for your version of Python (e.g. > ``setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg``). Do NOT rename it. > > 2. Make it executable (e.g. ``chmod +x setupto

Re: [Distutils] Limitations of setup_requires

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:04 PM 10/2/2006 -0700, Joshua Boverhof wrote: >I have a package specified in both "setup_requires" and >"install_requires", the package is downloaded and used during setup >but it is never installed in site-packages like the other entry. >This is happening on both my Mac and a Linux box. > >T

[Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
I'm working on new installation instructions for setuptools 0.6c4, which will no longer use ez_setup.py for end-user manual installation of setuptools (as opposed to bundled installation with another package). The basic idea is that the PyPI page for setuptools would contain these instructions,