Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> I think the convention is major.minor where minor releases are
> backwards-compatible and major releases aren't expected to be (but might
> be).
>
AFAIK, that's the general rule, but python itself does not respect this
convention, so I don't see this happening for pyth
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 13:01 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
> David Cournapeau wrote:
> > what is needed is a stable API for the used packages.
>
> That's a nice ideal to aim for, but it's only achievable
> for old and mature packages.
I don't think so. It requires vigil on the part of the maintainer,
Hi,
Dave P. has recently cross-posted here a mail from the enthought-dev thread I
started, in which I describe serious problems installing the ETS with
easy_install:
https://mail.enthought.com/pipermail/enthought-dev/2008-April/013913.html
I have tried setuptools 0.6_rc8 as distributed with Ge
Greg Ewing wrote:
> David Cournapeau wrote:
>> what is needed is a stable API for the used packages.
>
> That's a nice ideal to aim for, but it's only achievable
> for old and mature packages.
>
Yes, many packages can't have a stable API, at least for some time. But
then, should you rely on them
David Cournapeau wrote:
> what is needed is a stable API for the used packages.
That's a nice ideal to aim for, but it's only achievable
for old and mature packages.
One could change the package name every time the API
changes, but then *any* change to the API would make the
package unusable by a
Gael Varoquaux wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:30:14PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
>
> > Maybe the system should come with two pythons installed,
>
> What you propose resembles very much to what MacOSX does... I see on the
> different scientific-Python-related mailing lists how users have
> diffi
Sorry for breaking up the thread. I wasn't subscribed to the list (now
I am) and apparently I stopped being CC'd at some point, so I'll have to
sum up several things and address them here.
1) I agree that "system" scripts should use the "system" python
(whatever that is defined to mean - for now
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> John J Lee wrote:
>> If you have a network connection, about the only reason for not wanting an
>> app to be "installed" is that it has changed the behaviour of your system
>> somehow, just by being in the "installed" state.
>
> If you have a continuous hi
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 08:59:32PM +0200, Jan Matejek wrote:
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|>> On Apr 12, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote:
|>>> I used to always set up my own Python[s] in /us
Hans Meine wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> recently I reported this problem to you:
>> [...] here at our university, python (as
>> well as hundreds of other software packages) is installed in a shared NFS
>> tree with a clear separation of --prefix and --exec-prefix, i.e. all
>> platform-specific stuff goes
Am Montag, 14. April 2008 18:32:39 schrieb Hans Meine:
> > error: invalid Python installation: unable to
> > open /software/python-2.4.4/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file
> > or directory)
I have found and fixed this bug; it's because virtualenv overwrites
distutils.sysconfig.get_pyth
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:10:03PM +0200, Gael Varoquaux wrote:
> I think this discussion is really going on because Python does not have
> good library-versioning support. What it needs is to get this
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Hi Ian,
recently I reported this problem to you:
> [...] here at our university, python (as
> well as hundreds of other software packages) is installed in a shared NFS
> tree with a clear separation of --prefix and --exec-prefix, i.e. all
> platform-specific stuff goes into the according subdirect
On Mon, April 14, 2008 1:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:16:13 +1200
> From: Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Distutils] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs
> that are good for you
> To: distutils-sig@python.org
>
> David Courn
Gael Varoquaux wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:30:14PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
Gael Varoquaux wrote:
a second Python
needs to be installed on top of the system Python to add modules to it.
Maybe the system should come with two pythons installed,
one for use by the system
Gael Varoquaux wrote:
>
>
> I think this discussion is really going on because Python does not have
> good library-versioning support.
I personally think that the very idea to have several side by side
versions of the same package is doomed to failure: what is needed is a
stable API for the used
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:30:14PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Gael Varoquaux wrote:
> > a second Python
> > needs to be installed on top of the system Python to add modules to it.
> Maybe the system should come with two pythons installed,
> one for use by the system and the other for users to add
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