[Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Ned Deily
I'm afraid there is going to be a small deluge of very confused users who will end up needing to install Distribute but only when they eventually figure out why some packages with C extensions mysteriously no longer install after they upgrade to python 2.6.3. For example, following the

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: I'm afraid there is going to be a small deluge of very confused users who will end up needing to install Distribute but only when they eventually figure out why some packages with C extensions mysteriously no longer install after they upgrade to python 2.6.3.  

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: I'm afraid there is going to be a small deluge of very confused users who will end up needing to install Distribute but only when they eventually figure out why some packages with C

[Distutils] Problem using zc.recipe.cmmi to build Python

2009-10-03 Thread Kent Tenney
Howdy, In pursuit of a buildout for my core environment, I try the following: [python-2.6.3] recipe = zc.recipe.cmmi url = http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.6.3/Python-2.6.3rc1.tgz ... make fails with ImportError: No module named cStringIO because ./configure creates a Modules/Setup which says

Re: [Distutils] Clarification asked wrt FAQ How does Distribute interacts with virtualenv?

2009-10-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Roger Erens ro...@erens-krekels.net wrote: Hi Tarek e.a., Hi Roger, thanks a lot for the feedback, I'll push them as soon as bitbuket is up again, CHeers Tarek ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org

Re: [Distutils] Problem using zc.recipe.cmmi to build Python

2009-10-03 Thread kiorky
You can look at : http://git.minitage.org/git/minitage/buildouts/dependencies/python-2.6.3/tree/buildout.cfg This buildout build a python with buildout as a minitage system dependency. Note that the url points to a recent SVN snapshot as there are many ox snowleopard related bugs (blockers)

Re: [Distutils] Problem using zc.recipe.cmmi to build Python

2009-10-03 Thread kiorky
Or you can even use minitage to have it, see my previous post. As a short: virtualenv --no-site-packages f source f/bin/activate easy_install minitage.core minimerge -s minimerge -v python-2.6 kiorky a écrit : You can look at :

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Ned Deily
In article 94bdd2610910030649r431a5638y7c8b5332934f...@mail.gmail.com, Tarek Ziad? ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: I'm afraid there is going to be a small deluge of very confused users

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Oct 3, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Ned Deily wrote: This is not a good experience for users. Unless I'm missing something (and I hope I am), this issue really can't be hand-waved away. What would you suggest? S ___ Distutils-SIG maillist -

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: This is not a good experience for users.  Unless I'm missing something (and I hope I am), this issue really can't be hand-waved away. It's unfortunate that this comes in a minor release. But at the same time we can hardly avoid fixing bugs just because

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: This is not a good experience for users.  Unless I'm missing something (and I hope I am), this issue really can't be hand-waved away. Make sure to understand that the way setuptools patches distutils makes it very sensible to any

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: ...makes it very sensible to any change made in distutils, even backward compatibles ones like in the 2.6 branch s/backward compatibles/ bug fixes/ ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Oct 3, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: 2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: This is not a good experience for users. Unless I'm missing something (and I hope I am), this issue really can't be hand-waved away. How about some sort of an announcement/warning on the setuptools site

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Ned Deily
In article 94bdd2610910031309w61d72dcdo8faab4964bf67...@mail.gmail.com, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: This is not a good experience for users.  Unless I'm missing something (and I hope I am), this issue really can't be

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Sridhar Ratnakumar
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:17:50 -0700, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: On what other platforms is this likely to be a problem? Windows *? Linuxes? If that can be identified, if necessary the distributors of Python installers can be informed so they can inform their users (note, that python.org is

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/3 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: That's fine but they're not going to know about Distribute unless they stumble across discussions like this. They are going to ask around, and somebody will know. Most reasonably, they are going to ask the maker of the module they are trying to install, and say

Re: [Distutils] bdist_deb in stdeb

2009-10-03 Thread Andrew Straw
Gerry Reno wrote: Andrew, I see in the latest postings where setuptools is breaking with Python 2.6.3. Can you switch 'stdeb' over to using Distribute, which is being actively maintained? As I understand it, installing Distribute installs a package called setuptools. Therefore, my