Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Hello > > [David] >> Distribute broke basic features of easy_install, which makes it >> useless for my case (see for example #142). > Is that http://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/issue/142 ? > IIUC, distribute wanted to be a superset of setupto

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:12 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: [..] > Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, > but that's a bit > irresponsible of Ubuntu to provide distribute if it does not get at > least the bug fixes which go into setuptools. > Maybe there is a > miscommunication here, dunn

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: [..] > > So as I told you many time, if you want to help, add an issue in the tracker, > or help us fixing this bug by providing a patch :) I am sorry about this, I didn't see that you did provide a patch for #142. I am lacking of time at this

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > [..] >> >> So as I told you many time, if you want to help, add an issue in the tracker, >> or help us fixing this bug by providing a patch :) > > I am sorry about this, I didn't see that yo

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:56 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> [..] >>> >>> So as I told you many time, if you want to help, add an issue in the >>> tracker, >>> or help us fixing this bug b

Re: [Distutils] stdeb- setting build-depends to python-dev

2010-07-01 Thread Éric Araujo
Hello If nobody can answer you here, you can ask on debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org Regards ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 09:45 AM 7/1/2010 +0530, Zubin Mithra wrote: 1. Setuptools is no longer being maintained. This is not true. Please don't spread it, and I'd appreciate it if you'd kindly issue a retraction in any other forum where you've spread it. Thanks. __

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 11:35 AM 7/1/2010 +0900, David Cournapeau wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Eby wrote: > Have you tried requesting an exact version number of setuptools? (e.g. > setuptools==0.6c11 or setuptools==dev06) I have tried that, but easy_install considers it does not need it because dist

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 01, 2010, at 11:10 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >Ubuntu Lucid uses distribute instead of setuptools, and I cannot >manage to use setuptools with virtualenv because of this. I upgraded >to the last version of virtualenv, which claims to install setuptools >by default, but I still get distribu

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 01, 2010, at 04:12 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, but that's a bit >irresponsible of Ubuntu to provide distribute if it does not get at >least the bug fixes which go into setuptools. Maybe there is a >miscommunication here, dunno. I thought th

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Zubin Mithra
Hello, On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > At 09:45 AM 7/1/2010 +0530, Zubin Mithra wrote: > >> 1. Setuptools is no longer being maintained. >> > > This is not true. Please don't spread it, and I'd appreciate it if you'd > kindly issue a retraction in any other forum where you've

Re: [Distutils] stdeb- setting build-depends to python-dev

2010-07-01 Thread Andrew Straw
On 06/30/2010 11:48 PM, lukshun...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm using stdeb in debian/sid and the control file it generates > defaults to build-depends on python-all-dev. What should I do to make > it (build-)depend on python-dev? I've tried the --xs-python-version > option but I got python-all-dev all t

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:18 AM, P.J. Eby wrote: > > Did you try asking for an *exact* version of setuptools with '==' (not using > '>=' or leaving off a version)? Yes. The exact command I have tried is easy_install setuptools==0.6c11 David ___ Distu

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:12 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > [..] >> Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, >> but that's a bit >> irresponsible of Ubuntu to provide distribute if it does not get at >> least the bug fixes which go into

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 09:00 PM 7/1/2010 +0530, Zubin Mithra wrote: My sincere apologies. I was under the impression that it was not being maintained. It'd be great if you could point me towards the main setuptools trunk. There's a link on the PyPI project page, as well as a link to the 0.6 stable branch. There

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 12:37 AM 7/2/2010 +0900, David Cournapeau wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:18 AM, P.J. Eby wrote: > > Did you try asking for an *exact* version of setuptools with '==' (not using > '>=' or leaving off a version)? Yes. The exact command I have tried is easy_install setuptools==0.6c11 Ou

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 01, 2010, at 04:12 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >>Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, but that's a bit >>irresponsible of Ubuntu to provide distribute if it does not get at >>least the bug fixes which go into setuptools.

Re: [Distutils] stdeb- setting build-depends to python-dev

2010-07-01 Thread Éric Araujo
> (And this is the right place to ask questions about stdeb.) I’m sorry, I read the message too fast. stdeb does belong on this list, I hope I didn’t sound unfriendly when I made my hasty suggestion. Thanks Andrew. Regards ___ Distutils-SIG maillist -

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > At 10:50 AM 7/1/2010 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> >> It's precisely because Ubuntu is a good distribution that they decided >> to switch to distribute to get the most active project in it. > > Really?  I would've thought that the most *stable* vers

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Zubin Mithra wrote: > Hello, > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> >> At 09:45 AM 7/1/2010 +0530, Zubin Mithra wrote: >>> >>> 1. Setuptools is no longer being maintained. >> >> This is not true.  Please don't spread it, and I'd appreciate it if you'd

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:47 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: [..] > Thanks.  Not only is it not true that it's not maintained, but it's actually > actively developed (albeit at a glacial pace). > > The most recent commits to the trunk this year are in relation to new > features in progress for 0.7; I just don'

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> At 10:50 AM 7/1/2010 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >>> It's precisely because Ubuntu is a good distribution that they decided >>> to switch to distribute to get the most active projec

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >>> At 10:50 AM 7/1/2010 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote: It's precisely because Ubuntu is a good distribution that they dec

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 02, 2010, at 12:53 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Jul 01, 2010, at 04:12 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >>>Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, but that's a bit >>>irresponsible of Ubuntu to provide distribute if it does

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 12:53 AM 7/2/2010 +0900, David Cournapeau wrote: This is issue 142 on bitbucket (distribute fork on Tarek account), and there was a similar bug on setuptools issue tracker (submitted by Zooko as well), but cannot find it ATM. http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue17 A fix was released in s

Re: [Distutils] easy_install wrong download site preference

2010-07-01 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > > It prefers newer packages, or, if the versions are the same, it prefers the > shortest download URL.  In this case, the Google Code url is shorter. That's illogical. Better prefer PyPI if versions are the same. >> Is it possible to raise the

Re: [Distutils] easy_install wrong download site preference

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 11:36 PM 7/1/2010 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > > It prefers newer packages, or, if the versions are the same, it prefers the shortest download URL. Â In this case, the Google Code url is shorter. That's illogical. Better prefer PyPI if

Re: [Distutils] easy_install wrong download site preference

2010-07-01 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:10 AM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> > >> > It prefers newer packages, or, if the versions are the same, it prefers >> > the shortest download URL. Â In this case, the Google Code url is shorter. >> >> That's illogical. Better prefer PyPI if versions are the same. > > The "shortest

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 02, 2010, at 12:53 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >>On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> On Jul 01, 2010, at 04:12 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >>> Hm, that's a bit different from my understanding, but that's a bit

Re: [Distutils] How to force installing setuptools instead of distribute ?

2010-07-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> At 10:50 AM 7/1/2010 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >>> >>> It's precisely because Ubuntu is a good distribution that they decided >>> to switch to distribute to get the most active project in it. >

Re: [Distutils] easy_install wrong download site preference

2010-07-01 Thread P.J. Eby
At 01:33 AM 7/2/2010 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:10 AM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> > >> > It prefers newer packages, or, if the versions are the same, it prefers >> > the shortest download URL. Â In this case, the Google Code url is shorter. >> >> That's illogical. Bette