Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Chris Barker
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > So no, numpy does not build out of the box. Ah well. > Darn -- it used to, and it should. It has shipped for years with an "LAPACK light", and shouldn't need any fortran. It used to not even look for LAPACK with a default configuration. But I

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 24 January 2014 22:21, Chris Barker wrote: > well, numpy _should_ build out of the box with nothing special if you are > set up to build regular extensions. I understand that a lto f Windows users > are not set up to build extensions at all, but tehy ar presumably used to > getting "compiler no

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Chris Barker
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > In return, as Paul points out, it becomes substantially easier for people > that *aren't* wholly invested in the scientific Python stack to try it out > with their regular tools, rather than having to completely change how they > work with Py

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 24 January 2014 20:09, Matthew Iversen wrote: > Might I suggest you could upload some wheels (both windows and linux) to > testpypi, which afaik is pretty much made for this purpose? Well, Windows and Mac OS X - we don't allow PyPI wheels for Linux at the moment (since it turns out the compati

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Matthew Iversen
Might I suggest you could upload some wheels (both windows and linux) to testpypi, which afaik is pretty much made for this purpose? https://wiki.python.org/moin/TestPyPI People can easily install then with e.g. `pip install --index-url https://testpypi.python.org/pypi numpy`, and see what tends

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 24 Jan 2014 19:41, "Paul Moore" wrote: > > On 24 January 2014 00:17, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > You need to bear in mind that people currently have a variety of ways > > to install numpy on Windows that do work already without limitations > > on CPU instruction set. Most numpy users will not ge

Re: [Distutils] pip on windows experience

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 24 January 2014 00:17, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > You need to bear in mind that people currently have a variety of ways > to install numpy on Windows that do work already without limitations > on CPU instruction set. Most numpy users will not get any immediate > benefit from the fact that "it work