Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Stefan Krah
Paul Moore wrote: > 1. There will be a single per-package opt-in flag, that is needed for > any package not hosted on PyPI (effectively merging --allow-external > and --allow-unverifiable) Could this flag be called "--skip-verify"? If I understand correctly, it will also suppress verification fo

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On May 13, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Paul Moore wrote: >> External and verifiable packages have the same security as uploaded files >> (though I would like to use sha256 instead of md5 the URL). > > Correct (I think it might even be correct for indirectly linked files > where each link has a hash, whic

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Moore
On 13 May 2014 12:16, Stefan Krah wrote: >> I believe that option has been there for a while as >> --allow-[all]-external. Again, naming and discoverability may be an >> issue, but the functionality is available. > > Yes, but I understood that the latest proposals in this thread wanted > to get ri

Re: [Distutils] error in windows 7 installation

2014-05-13 Thread coneje
Hi, I downloaded cli-32.exe from -> http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue2 and this made the installation of setuptools to finish correctly. Hope it helps! -- View this message in context: http://python.6.x6.nabble.com/error-in-windows-7-installation-tp4887760p5056718.html Sent from the Pytho

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On May 13, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Stefan Krah wrote: > Paul Moore wrote: >>> Not quite the sequence of events. -- I left the existing explicit link >>> for some time after the first posts to python-dev. Then serious security >>> issues were marginalized ("not a meaningful scenario"). I find this a

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Stefan Krah
Paul Moore wrote: > > Not quite the sequence of events. -- I left the existing explicit link > > for some time after the first posts to python-dev. Then serious security > > issues were marginalized ("not a meaningful scenario"). I find this a > > little surprising, since PEP 458 is precisely th

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Donald Stufft
On May 13, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Stefan Krah wrote: > FreeBSD ports have been using the download-from-many-but-verify strategy > for a long time. I don't see why users should find this surprising. The difference is in expectations which is a function of what the “normal” is. For FreeBSD ports it

Re: [Distutils] PEP 438, pip and --allow-external (was: "pip: cdecimal an externally hosted file and may be unreliable" from python-dev)

2014-05-13 Thread Vinay Sajip
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've a feeling you once said you'd tested > distil against all the packages on PyPI (which is a mammoth task, so I > could easily be wrong...) Not fully tested in the sense you mean - that *would* be a mammoth task :-) However, I have tried to make declarative met

Re: [Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

2014-05-13 Thread Stefan Krah
Paul Moore wrote: > > "Installers should provide a blanket option to allow installing any > > verifiable > > external link." > > > > Perhaps something like --allow-verifiable-external would do? I would not be > > unhappy if link-spidering were to be removed, I find it reasonable to > > provide

Re: [Distutils] PEP 438, pip and --allow-external (was: "pip: cdecimal an externally hosted file and may be unreliable" from python-dev)

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Moore
On 13 May 2014 01:15, Vinay Sajip wrote: > The packages distil has problems with are those that do significant things in > setup.py, such as moving files > around in the source tree, generating new source files, subclassing distutils > so you can't see what the > actual operations being carried

Re: [Distutils] Problem with latest buildout bootstrap on Windows with Python 3.3

2014-05-13 Thread Lele Gaifax
FYI, I eventually created https://github.com/buildout/buildout/issues/186 ciao, lele. -- nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivrò di quello che ho pensato ieri real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincerò ad aver paura di chi mi copia. l...@metapensiero.it | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929. _