Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Greg Ewing
Donald Stufft wrote: For RDP on OSX, Microsoft has a free RDP app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417 And here's another one that I find to be slightly better: http://cord.sourceforge.net/ -- Greg ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Kevin Horn wrote: > Regarding remote access to windows machines, there are several options: > > - Remote powershell (not my area, so not sure how viable this is) > - Use pexec from sysinternals to run cmd.exe remotely (probably on local > network only, and only fro

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Kevin Horn
Regarding remote access to windows machines, there are several options: - Remote powershell (not my area, so not sure how viable this is) - Use pexec from sysinternals to run cmd.exe remotely (probably on local network only, and only from other windows machines, so probably not that helpful) - Win

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 09/11/2014 12:13, Vinay Sajip wrote: Thanks, that's very useful feedback. I agree, the need for RDP is very Windows-specific - I don't know how common RDP tools are for Unix, but Not uncommon, AFAIK. For example, I use rdesktop on Lubuntu to access Windows machines via RDP, and it se

Re: [Distutils] pypi.python.org forces SSL?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 14:51, Donald Stufft wrote: > No, there are no URLs on PyPI which support being accessed by anything > other than via TLS. You could probably run some sort of local proxy (or something like devpi) that serves pypi content over http. Paul

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 14:44, Donald Stufft wrote: > For RDP on OSX, Microsoft has a free RDP app: > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417 Yeah, I don't think RDP is *technically* an issue. There are Linux RDP apps as well. Paul

Re: [Distutils] pypi.python.org forces SSL?

2014-11-09 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Nov 8, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > > Hello, > > I see that nowadays trying to access http://pypi.python.org (including > any URL beneath it) unconditionally redirects to > https://pypi.python.org. I'm trying to access it using system which > doesn't have SSL support and cann

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > >> Thanks, that's very useful feedback. I agree, the need for RDP is very > >> Windows-specific - I don't know how common RDP tools are for Unix, but > > > > > Not uncommon, AFAIK. For example, I use rdesktop on Lubuntu to access Windows >

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 13:04, David Cournapeau wrote: > Regarding winrm, note that it can be fairly complicated to set it up on the > windows side. For my simple test, "winrm quickconfig" worked OK. Having said all this, though, I'm not sure that hiding the Windows environment this thoroughly is pro

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 12:40, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Underlying library: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywinrm Wow - that sounds awesome. Not that I can get it working yet, looks like WinRM might need some setting up (and/or VirtualBox networking is getting in the way :-() But that is definitely someth

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread David Cournapeau
Regarding winrm, note that it can be fairly complicated to set it up on the windows side. I can confirm it works well, though. We're using an internal hack of fabric to communicate from linux to windows through winrm at work, and it does the job. David On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Nick Coghl

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 12:28, Nick Coghlan wrote: > For automated scripting from a *nix host, it's also worth noting that > Ansible supports remote control of Windows systems, and the underlying > Python libraries for that connectivity are also open source (they talk to > the native Windows remote con

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 9 Nov 2014 22:28, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > > > On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Vinay Sajip" wrote: > > > > > Thanks, that's very useful feedback. I agree, the need for RDP is very > > > > > Windows-specific - I don't know how common RDP tools are for Unix, but > > > > > > > > > > Not uncommon, AFAIK. For

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 November 2014 12:21, Tim Golden wrote: > I think the OP was speaking not so much about having the technical > wherewithal to use RDP but rather about the experience of RDP vs SSH. That was certainly my understanding. The key issue for me is to try to make the process of just running "pip whe

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 9 Nov 2014 22:16, "Vinay Sajip" wrote: > > > Thanks, that's very useful feedback. I agree, the need for RDP is very > > > Windows-specific - I don't know how common RDP tools are for Unix, but > > > > > Not uncommon, AFAIK. For example, I use rdesktop on Lubuntu to access Windows machines via R

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Vinay Sajip
> Thanks, that's very useful feedback. I agree, the need for RDP is very > Windows-specific - I don't know how common RDP tools are for Unix, but Not uncommon, AFAIK. For example, I use rdesktop on Lubuntu to access Windows machines via RDP, and it seems fairly stable. There are alternative t

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 7 November 2014 16:15, Jonathan Helmus wrote: > This sounds like a very useful project. I do most my development in Linux > or OS X but occasionally spin up a Windows VM locally or in the cloud to > produce some Python wheels or conda packages. The one annoyance I find is > that I need to use

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Helmus
On 11/07/2014 09:46 AM, Paul Moore wrote: I'm in the process of developing an automated solution to allow users to quickly set up a Windows box so that it can be used to compile Python extensions and build wheels. While it can obviously be used by Windows developers who want to quickly set up a b

[Distutils] pypi.python.org forces SSL?

2014-11-09 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, I see that nowadays trying to access http://pypi.python.org (including any URL beneath it) unconditionally redirects to https://pypi.python.org. I'm trying to access it using system which doesn't have SSL support and cannot easily have (embedded, size constraints). Is there any way to acces