Re: [Distutils] Granting permissions to Xavier Fernandez and Marc Abramowitz?

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Piotr Dobrogost p...@2015.forums.dobrogost.net wrote: Hi As an external observer of pip project at github I see two men, namely Xavier Fernandez (https://github.com/xavfernandez) and Marc Abramowitz (https://github.com/msabramo) with many valuable

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:17 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Stealing some packaging code from Go and tweaking may not be that bad idea. =) At least they use code review system to let new people learn and old people share. Yep and most of the people working on Go are paid to do

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
Has PyPA considered contacting GitHub support? I'm happy to do the same since I've wanted this for a while myself on other projects. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 March 2015 at 23:01, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Tooling wise, Github PRs

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 Mar 2015 22:10, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: CPython uses the Reitveld instance integrated with bugs.python.org, and has the same problem as pip: incremental

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Donald Stufft
On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 Mar 2015 22:10, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: CPython uses the Reitveld

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 March 2015 at 03:16, Marcus Smith qwc...@gmail.com wrote: So I guess my suggestions boil down to: - Add more humans - Add more money to make humans more efficient - Add more computer automation maybe agree to always maintain X open issues and Y open PRs, before adding features.

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments (was: Getting more momentum for pip)

2015-03-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 March 2015 at 08:00, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: Sadly with how the code in pip is written, sometimes it’s just not reasonable to make small PRs because things are not well factored and changing things requires touching a lot of

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: CPython uses the Reitveld instance integrated with bugs.python.org, and has the same problem as pip: incremental changes are a pain to publish, review, and merge, so we review and accept monolithic patches instead (cf the problem statement in

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
Anatoly, We already ruled out AppVeyor On Mar 6, 2015 2:11 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: And for CI, we need people who will help with the windows CI solution on more than one front clearly.

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments (was: Getting more momentum for pip)

2015-03-06 Thread Donald Stufft
On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-03-06 21:37:31 +1000 (+1000), Nick Coghlan wrote: [...] I've never used Gerrit in the OpenStack context though, so I don't know if Donald dislikes Gerrit in its own right, or just the way OpenStack uses it. [...]

Re: [Distutils] Installing a file into sitepackages

2015-03-06 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Stuart Axon stua...@yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid wrote: Hi, In my project, I install a .pth file into site-packages, I use the data_files... in Ubuntu this seems to work OK, but in a Windows VM the file doesn't seem to be being installed: setup(

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: And for CI, we need people who will help with the windows CI solution on more than one front clearly. https://ci.appveyor.com/ works for open source projects. -- anatoly t.

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread anatoly techtonik
Stealing some packaging code from Go and tweaking may not be that bad idea. =) At least they use code review system to let new people learn and old people share. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, I have an idea. Let's rewrite pip in Rust! ;)

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.com wrote: - Add more computer automation #3 seems most appealing to me, but of course it requires humans to develop it in the first place, but at least it's an investment that could pay dividends. On page

[Distutils] Granting permissions to Xavier Fernandez and Marc Abramowitz?

2015-03-06 Thread Piotr Dobrogost
Hi As an external observer of pip project at github I see two men, namely Xavier Fernandez (https://github.com/xavfernandez) and Marc Abramowitz (https://github.com/msabramo) with many valuable contributions. I think it would be beneficial if they had been granted some more permissions to the

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2015 at 16:38, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.com wrote: This makes me think that the folks who review the PRs are overburdened and/or the process needs a bit more structure (e.g.: each person thinks someone else

[Distutils] Granting permissions to Xavier Fernandez and Marc Abramowitz?

2015-03-06 Thread piotr.dobrog...@autoera-serwer.home.pl piotr.dobrog...@autoera-serwer.home.pl
Hi As an external observer of pip project at github I see two men, namely Xavier Fernandez (https://github.com/xavfernandez) and Marc Abramowitz (https://github.com/msabramo) with many valuable contributions. I think it would be beneficial if they had been granted some more permissions to the

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 Mar 2015 22:10, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: CPython uses the Reitveld instance integrated with bugs.python.org, and has the same problem as pip: incremental changes are a pain to publish, review, and merge, so we review and

Re: [Distutils] Granting permissions to Xavier Fernandez and Marc Abramowitz?

2015-03-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 Mar 2015 05:41, Piotr Dobrogost p...@2015.forums.dobrogost.net wrote: Hi As an external observer of pip project at github I see two men, namely Xavier Fernandez (https://github.com/xavfernandez) and Marc Abramowitz (https://github.com/msabramo) with many valuable contributions. I think

Re: [Distutils] Getting more momentum for pip

2015-03-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 Mar 2015 06:44, Ian Cordasco graffatcolmin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with discussing this sort of thing is that it's *very* wide-ranging, and tends to produce huge rambling mega-threads[1] when discussed in a

Re: [Distutils] Granting permissions to Xavier Fernandez and Marc Abramowitz?

2015-03-06 Thread Donald Stufft
On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Piotr Dobrogost p...@2015.forums.dobrogost.net wrote: Hi As an external observer of pip project at github I see two men, namely Xavier Fernandez (https://github.com/xavfernandez) and Marc Abramowitz (https://github.com/msabramo) with many valuable