Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 18 May 2015 07:32, "Chris Barker" wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > >> > >> > % pip install --upgrade pip > >> > % pip install some_conda_package > >> > >> This gets the respective role of the

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Chris Barker
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > > > But I'm confused as to the roles of pip vs setuptools, vs wheel, vs ??? > > > > > > I see pip has handling the dependency resolution, and finding and > downloading of packages part of the problem -- conda does those already. > > > > > >

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Donald Stufft
> On May 17, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > > > On 17 May 2015 5:05 pm, "Nick Coghlan" > wrote: > > > > > > On 18 May 2015 07:32, "Chris Barker" > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Nick Coghlan > >

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 17 May 2015 5:05 pm, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > > > On 18 May 2015 07:32, "Chris Barker" wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> > >> > % pip install --upgrade pip > >> > % pip install some_conda_package > >> > >> This gets the respective role of the two too

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 18 May 2015 07:32, "Chris Barker" wrote: > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> > % pip install --upgrade pip >> > % pip install some_conda_package >> >> This gets the respective role of the two tools reversed - it's like my >> asking for "pip install some_fedora_r

Re: [Distutils] Dynamic linking between Python modules (was: Beyond wheels 1.0: helping downstream, FHS and more)

2015-05-17 Thread Chris Barker
Trying to keep this brief, because the odds of my finding time to do much with this are slim.. > I'm not proposing that we drop it -- just that we push pip and wheel a bit farther to broaden the supported user-base. > I can't stop you working on something I consider a deep rabbithole, > no -- but

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Chris Barker
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > % pip install --upgrade pip > > % pip install some_conda_package > > This gets the respective role of the two tools reversed - it's like my > asking for "pip install some_fedora_rpm" to be made to work. > I agree here -- I was thinkin

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 17 May 2015 at 19:05, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 17 May 2015 at 05:04, David Mertz wrote: >> What would be better as a user experience would be to let users do this: >> >> % pip install --upgrade pip >> % pip install some_conda_package > > This gets the respective role of the two tools rever

Re: [Distutils] Dynamic linking between Python modules (was: Beyond wheels 1.0: helping downstream, FHS and more)

2015-05-17 Thread Paul Moore
On 17 May 2015 at 04:48, Nick Coghlan wrote: > A large part of what *defines* a platform is making decisions about the ABI > to publish & target. Linux distros, nix, conda do that for everything they > redistribute. I assume chocolatey does as well I'm picking on this because it seems to be a com

Re: [Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

2015-05-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 17 May 2015 at 05:04, David Mertz wrote: > What would be better as a user experience would be to let users do this: > > % pip install --upgrade pip > % pip install some_conda_package This gets the respective role of the two tools reversed - it's like my asking for "pip install some_fedora_