Re: [Distutils] Towards a simple and standard sdist format that isn't intertwined with distutils

2015-10-04 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > I feel like you have some sort of "a sdist is jsut a tarball of a VCS" > mentality and I don't think that idea of a sdist is generally useful. Hmm, so, between thinking this over more on the plane today and reading your and Paul's great repl

Re: [Distutils] Towards a simple and standard sdist format that isn't intertwined with distutils

2015-10-04 Thread Donald Stufft
On October 4, 2015 at 2:22:51 PM, Nathaniel Smith (n...@pobox.com) wrote: > > I guess to make progress in this conversation I need some more > detailed explanations. I totally get that there's a long history > of thought and conversations behind the various assertions > here like "a sdist is fun

Re: [Distutils] Towards a simple and standard sdist format that isn't intertwined with distutils

2015-10-04 Thread Paul Moore
Let me see if I can help clarify, so it's not just Donald who says so :-) It does feel as if we're trying to explain a lot of things that "everybody knows". Clearly not everybody knows, as you don't, but what we're trying to clarify here is the de facto realities of how sdists work, and how people

Re: [Distutils] Towards a simple and standard sdist format that isn't intertwined with distutils

2015-10-04 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > On October 2, 2015 at 10:27:36 PM, Nathaniel Smith (n...@pobox.com) wrote: >> >> So I'm extremely reluctant to give up on standardizing how to handle >> VCS checkouts. And if we're going to have a standard for that, then >> would sure be nice