Re: [Distutils] PyPA Roadmap

2015-11-04 Thread Marcus Smith
FYI, I went ahead and merged it. https://www.pypa.io/en/latest/roadmap/ Again, help appreciated from anyone to keep it accurate as things change (and they surely will) --Marcus ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python

Re: [Distutils] Which Build Distribution Formats do exist?

2015-11-04 Thread Alexander Walters
On 11/4/2015 15:13, Thomas Güttler wrote: From http://python-packaging-user-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/glossary/ Egg A Built Distribution format introduced by setuptools, which is being replaced by Wheel. Which other Built Distribution formats do exist beside egg and wheel? Regards,

Re: [Distutils] The Update Framework, integrate into PyPI?

2015-11-04 Thread Marcus Smith
> > answering basic questions can take time away from making important > improvements? > to be fair, distutils-sig is mentioned as a user support list on the "Python Packaging User Guide" a few years back, there was a debate on splitting it between a user and planning list, but no traction there.

Re: [Distutils] The Update Framework, integrate into PyPI?

2015-11-04 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Thomas Güttler wrote: > I read the RoadMap (Thank you Marcus Smith) and came across this: > > > An effort to integrate PyPI with the “The Update Framework” (TUF). This > is specified in PEP458 > > I see a trend to immutable systems everywhere. Not everywhere. Kee

Re: [Distutils] The Update Framework, integrate into PyPI?

2015-11-04 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Hi Thomas, It's great you're so enthusiastic about python packaging and distribution, but it might be good to keep in mind that there are a lot of people reading these lists, and answering basic questions can take time away from making important improvements? In this case, a quick google of "the

Re: [Distutils] Why github and bitbucket?

2015-11-04 Thread Ian Cordasco
As I understand it, some people prefer Mercurial. Those projects tend to live on bitbucket. Git projects can live in either place although I suspect they tend to live on GitHub instead. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Thomas Güttler wrote: > From: http://python-packaging-user-guide.readthedocs.or

[Distutils] Which Build Distribution Formats do exist?

2015-11-04 Thread Thomas Güttler
From http://python-packaging-user-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/glossary/ > Egg > A Built Distribution format introduced by setuptools, which is being replaced > by Wheel. Which other Built Distribution formats do exist beside egg and wheel? Regards, Thomas Güttler -- http://www.thomas-g

[Distutils] Why github and bitbucket?

2015-11-04 Thread Thomas Güttler
From: http://python-packaging-user-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/glossary/ > Python Packaging Authority (PyPA) > PyPA is a working group that maintains many of the relevant projects in > Python packaging. They maintain a site at https://www.pypa.io, host projects > on github and bitbucket, and

[Distutils] The Update Framework, integrate into PyPI?

2015-11-04 Thread Thomas Güttler
I read the RoadMap (Thank you Marcus Smith) and came across this: > An effort to integrate PyPI with the “The Update Framework” (TUF). This is > specified in PEP458 I see a trend to immutable systems everywhere. Updates are a pain. Building new systems is easier. With current hardware and good s

Re: [Distutils] PyPA Roadmap

2015-11-04 Thread Paul Moore
On 4 November 2015 at 05:06, Marcus Smith wrote: > I'm wary that trying to maintain "design principles" is too much for this > document (at least more than I'd want to maintain). That was my concern too. Let's wait & see how things play out. > btw, I just added a sentence to the sdist section ab