Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-12 Thread John Gabriele
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn zo...@zooko.com wrote: On Saturday, 2010-01-09, at 11:47 , Brad Allen wrote: Now I understand that your 'project' concept probably corresponds to an entry in PyPI which is associated with multiple releases Yep.  Or actually the project is

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-11 Thread John Gabriele
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:33, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com writes: I said that it's not a big problem because in most cases the terminology mixup does not result in any

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-11 Thread John Gabriele
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Jan 10, 2010, at 7:57 PM, David Lyon wrote: As a regular developer, I'd call for a L'Oeuf incredible. Excuse my bad french. A new egg to replace all the bad old eggs. We need more simplicity in packaging in python..

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-10 Thread John Gabriele
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: At this point, people are just going to keep calling this entity a “package”, consistent with the majority of other languages and systems

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-08 Thread John Gabriele
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:43 PM, John Gabriele wrote: 3. People don't like calling those MyProject-1.0.2.tgz thingies distributions. They keep calling them packages, and when you correct them, they say, [sigh], fine

Re: [Distutils] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-07 Thread John Gabriele
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote: [..] We should use the terminology as defined in http://docs.python.org/distutils/introduction.html#distutils-specific-terminology So technically

Re: [Distutils] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-07 Thread John Gabriele
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:52 PM, John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com wrote: The only inconsistency, I think, is that operating systems like Debian refer to their software distributions as packages (as in, a packaged up piece

Re: [Distutils] current preferred way to specify dependencies? future?

2010-01-06 Thread John Gabriele
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM, David Lyon david.l...@preisshare.net wrote: Hi John, What is expected to be the standard way to do this in the near future? PEP-345 says:   Requires-Dist: pywin32 (1.0); sys.platform == 'win32'   Obsoletes-Dist: pywin31; sys.platform == 'win32'  

Re: [Distutils] current preferred way to specify dependencies? future?

2010-01-06 Thread John Gabriele
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Carl Meyer c...@dirtcircle.com wrote: {snip} Following the principle of least surprise I would assume they would be requires_dist, provides_dist, etc, and would take lists of strings, in the same format as in the PEP (name followed by version spec in

Re: [Distutils] [RFC] Python 2.7 Distutils extra features

2010-01-06 Thread John Gabriele
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: - a new option for sdist called 'extra_files', that will allow to list extra files to be included in the distribution. these  files will not be installed by 'install', just be part of the distribution. Any comments ?

[Distutils] current preferred way to specify dependencies? future?

2010-01-05 Thread John Gabriele
Hi, What is currently the preferred way to specify (in your simple setup.py file) that your distribution depends upon a couple of other distributions? (All located at the PyPI) What is expected to be the standard way to do this in the near future? Also, is it better to specify that your

[Distutils] Distribute docs at packages.python.org?

2009-10-15 Thread John Gabriele
Was just looking at the Distribute docs at http://packages.python.org/distribute/index.html (nicely styled, btw). Are there any other projects at http://packages.python.org/ (note, that page actually doesn't even load)? What is the purpose of packages.python.org , and how does one get their

Re: [Distutils] Packaging Distribute

2009-10-10 Thread John Gabriele
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: Sorry I won't run a new poll again, Distribute is the name. Besides, it's already on page #1 on google when I type 'python disribute' or 'distribute python' *shrugs* I will state now that I

[Distutils] keeping a local ~/pylib directory of installed modules (2)

2007-05-16 Thread John Gabriele
I wrote: I'm running on a server where I don't have root access. I've installed my own Python into ~/py-2.5.1 (with a ~/py symlink), and created my own ~/pylib directory for installing any extra packages I need. I'd like to start using Easy Install / setuptools to manage package