Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/4/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah crap. I wonder if there's any way to tell whether you're the only > process on a particular console? That would fix this, I guess. There's a > GetConsoleProcessList() API, but it doesn't even work on Win2K as far as I > can tell; a minim

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 09:23 AM 10/4/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >On 10/4/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>At 11:12 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >> >Also, the automatic pause would annoy me. How would you make it *not* >> >happen if I ran the command from a console window I already had open?

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:48 AM 10/4/2006 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>I'm working on new installation instructions for setuptools 0.6c4, which >>will no longer use ez_setup.py for end-user manual installation of >>setuptools (as opposed to bundled installation with another package). > >This see

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Lambacher
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 09:23:28AM +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > On 10/4/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 11:12 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > > >Also, the automatic pause would annoy me. How would you make it *not* > > >happen if I ran the command from a console window I

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Jorge Vargas
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:43 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > >On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Should we make more effort to create a usable command-line experience on > >>Windows? Perhaps use a post-install script to register ea

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Fulton wrote: ... > This will probably break buildout's bootstrapping script, which uses > ez_setup. I was too hasty in making this remark. The buildout bootstrap script, http://svn.zope.org/zc.buildout/trunk/bootstrap/bootstrap.py?view=markup Uses the use_setup function from ez_setup.p

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/4/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:12 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > >Also, the automatic pause would annoy me. How would you make it *not* > >happen if I ran the command from a console window I already had open? > > The idea would be to register a separate "easy

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:14 PM 10/3/2006 -0400, bear wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>RPM-Based Systems >>= >> >>Install setuptools using the provided source RPM. The included ``.spec`` >>file assumes you are installing using the default ``python`` executable, >>and is thus not specific to a particu

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:12 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >Also, the automatic pause would annoy me. How would you make it *not* >happen if I ran the command from a console window I already had open? The idea would be to register a separate "easy_install-win.exe" under "easy_install" in App Paths. This ver

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread bear
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > Windows > === > > Install setuptools using the provided ``.exe`` installer. If you've > previously installed older versions of setuptools, please delete all > ``setuptools*.egg`` files from your system FIRST. > > If you are upgrading a previous version of setuptools t

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >IMHO, no. Your particular suggestions would annoy me immensely, > > Are you sure? Two points here, that I think you're not noticing: > > 1. Registering an "App Paths" entry for easy_install would simply make it > *possible* to type "easy_ins

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:43 PM 10/3/2006 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Should we make more effort to create a usable command-line experience on >>Windows? Perhaps use a post-install script to register easy_install so it >>works from "Start/Run", with an automatic p

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:40 PM 10/3/2006 -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >Wouldn't it be easier to just tell them to do "sh > >./setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg" instead of marking it executable first? > > I found the phrasing much more awkward that way, as it led to ha

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:40 PM 10/3/2006 -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: >Wouldn't it be easier to just tell them to do "sh >./setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg" instead of marking it executable first? I found the phrasing much more awkward that way, as it led to having to explain the idea that it's got a shell script in there

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Moore
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for any feedback people might have, on the installation process > itself or on the directions. Some particular areas of question/concern: Looks fine for Windows. > * Should we make more effort to create a usable command-line exp

Re: [Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/3/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cygwin, Mac OS X, Linux, Other > == > > 1. Download the appropriate egg for your version of Python (e.g. > ``setuptools-0.6c4-py2.4.egg``). Do NOT rename it. > > 2. Make it executable (e.g. ``chmod +x setupto

[Distutils] Draft of new setuptools installation instructions

2006-10-03 Thread Phillip J. Eby
I'm working on new installation instructions for setuptools 0.6c4, which will no longer use ez_setup.py for end-user manual installation of setuptools (as opposed to bundled installation with another package). The basic idea is that the PyPI page for setuptools would contain these instructions,