I became convinced that build was an inherently arbitrary-code
process, and not something to be universally handled by a declarative
system, when I observed an autotools project under configuration. The
things spend ten minutes writing and compiling snippets of C code to
determine which features ar
On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
> I became convinced that build was an inherently arbitrary-code
> process, and not something to be universally handled by a declarative
> system, when I observed an autotools project under configuration. The
> things spend ten minutes writing and
On 27 March 2014 19:48, Donald Stufft wrote:
> I do believe a declarative build system can work for the 90% case
> though and should probably be the "default" option.
+1. Easy things should be easy, and hard things possible. Ultimately,
I want to say "this is my project, here are the Python files
On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 27 March 2014 19:48, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> I do believe a declarative build system can work for the 90% case
>> though and should probably be the "default" option.
>
> +1. Easy things should be easy, and hard things possible. Ultimately,
>
On 27 March 2014 20:30, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> When I interface with an external library that may not be in the same
>> place on every system, I'd expect to say a bit more, but mainly just
>> "look in location X, but the user can override this with a command
>> line argument".
>
> That's the job
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
>
> > I became convinced that build was an inherently arbitrary-code
> > process, and not something to be universally handled by a declarative
> > system, when I observed an autotools proje
On 28 Mar 2014 05:42, "Daniel Holth" wrote:
>
> I became convinced that build was an inherently arbitrary-code
> process, and not something to be universally handled by a declarative
> system,
It wasn't an accident that last years PyCon panel was subtitled "setup.py
*install* must die" :)
As oth
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 28 Mar 2014 05:42, "Daniel Holth" wrote:
> > I became convinced that build was an inherently arbitrary-code
> > process, and not something to be universally handled by a declarative
> > system,
>
> It wasn't an accident that last years Py