Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-13 Thread Rich Bowen
I would also encourage people who are interested in *why* this is emotionally charged to read the book Chasing Shadows by Shelley Bowen Hatfield (no relation, as far as I know) about the complicated and often brutal history between the US Government, and the Apache and Yaqui people along the

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-13 Thread Joan Touzet
It depends which sub-group you are talking about, and whether you are referring to current or former relationships. The Jicarilla Apache in New Mexico actively refer to themselves as a Nation, as do the Yavapai-Apache Nation, the San Carlos Apache Nation and the Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation. Many

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-13 Thread Matt Sicker
According to Wikipedia, Apache are made up of several tribes. It doesn’t sound like an individual tribe, so “nation” sort of makes sense, though I’m not familiar with their specific terminology. On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 07:11, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 5/13/19 12:11 AM, Kenneth Knowles wrote: >

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-13 Thread Rich Bowen
On 5/13/19 12:11 AM, Kenneth Knowles wrote: "subscribe" This comes up for me pretty much every time I explain my work/life to someone who has not yet heard of the ASF (if they don't mention it, that is sort of worse). Reading Mark's comment I had the same question as Rich. I would very much

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-12 Thread Kenneth Knowles
"subscribe" This comes up for me pretty much every time I explain my work/life to someone who has not yet heard of the ASF (if they don't mention it, that is sort of worse). Reading Mark's comment I had the same question as Rich. I would very much like to know the answer and the details. Kenn

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-12 Thread Rich Bowen
Not that we are aware of. On Sun, May 12, 2019, 11:36 Matt Sicker wrote: > Is anyone from Apache Nation also a committer or member here? > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 03:45, Mark Thomas wrote: > > > On 11/05/2019 17:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/19 4:22 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: >

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-12 Thread Matt Sicker
Is anyone from Apache Nation also a committer or member here? On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 03:45, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 11/05/2019 17:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > > On 5/10/19 4:22 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> For the record, years ago the ASF reached out to the relevant Native > >> Americans to

Re: Apache people, Native Americans

2019-05-12 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/05/2019 17:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 5/10/19 4:22 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> For the record, years ago the ASF reached out to the relevant Native >> Americans to check if they were happy with us using the name Apache and >> they confirmed that they were. > > Mark, > > I've heard this