Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC

2014-12-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-02 12:55 GMT+01:00 Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com: However, I think the tone of the emails on this list still need to be dealt with. +1, honestly, I finally understand why some people push for a code of conduct. In almost 7 years on OSM mailing lists and conventions I have

Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC

2014-12-02 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Thanks for your thoughtful words, Alan. Yes, I and Alyssa are the moderators. I’m afraid I’m still getting caught up. (Haven’t even had coffee yet!) I saw the first couple of e-mails in the thread last night, but no more until this morning, and I’m afraid I don’t know what “other thread”

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Darrell, without going into the specifics of this case, there's one bit in your message that had a bad taste for me. What you have essentially done is elevate Serge's message to almost extreme violation status because you've decided to sanction immediately, rather than just going through the

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 3:22 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident.

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Jo Walsh
+1 what Frederik said. Thanks, saved me some typing there. We seem to have calmed down, I thought Mele had some very helpful advice. We can all help to drag up the baseline of civility after this painfully illustrative incident. To me this looks like a pre-emptive attempt at a decision which

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 5:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Am I to understand that felt Serge's comments were acceptable behavior? I was expecting to find that you at least didn't condone it. but sadly no where did you say Serge's comments were unacceptable. No where did I say that his comments were acceptable