Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Sergej dergatsjev eecho
+ 1 2010/6/22 Robert Coup : > Hey folks, > > While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start > the process of deprecating and removing support for mod_python. Why? > >  * mod_wsgi is better in every way. >  * mod_python hasn't had a release since 2007, or a commit since 2008;

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Gert Van Gool
You could release the "officially endorsed" external package together with 1.3. So people can start migrating towards that. However, I assume that people who're still using mod_python, won't be upgrading to 1.4/1.5 without updating the rest of the system... We're currently running two websites on

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Jun 23, 9:48 am, Alex Gaynor wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Graham Dumpleton > > > > > > wrote: > > > On Jun 23, 9:41 am, Russell Keith-Magee > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Robert Coup > >>

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Waldemar Kornewald >> wrote: >> It also strikes me that a lot of this is being configured at the >> global level -- i.e., you have to nom

Re: How to options by limited_choices_to ?

2010-06-22 Thread Karen Tracey
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How to options by limited_choices_to ?

2010-06-22 Thread cat in a tub
Hi All, I want to built a django application for hardware compatibility testing Some hardwares are compatible with certain mother board. And attributes of each hardware are different (I use a ugly table to store attributes), which are compatible with Hardware types, such as MEM as SIZE, HDD has Fi

Re: Making WSGIHandler the only handler / mod_python support

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Gustavo Narea wrote: > To sum up, I'm proposing two things: >  1.- Making the WSGI handler the only handler. >  2.- If we want to keep mod_python support, use a mod_python<->WSGI wrapper. > > What do you think? As noted in a separate thread -- we're looking to de

Re: Making WSGIHandler the only handler / mod_python support

2010-06-22 Thread Robert Coup
Nice timing :) On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Gustavo Narea wrote: > > I'm going to work on some patches to improve WSGI support, and I found > something that, if changed, could make my patches and django.core.handlers > simpler... As well as make it possible to use WSGI middleware with Django

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: ... > http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/django/core/handlers/profiler-hotshot.py > > (Honestly does anyone use this?) I think I did a few times in the dark days before debug-toolbar, etc. -- You received this message because y

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote: > > > On Jun 23, 9:41 am, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Robert Coup >> > wrote: >> >> While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I th

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Jun 23, 9:41 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Robert Coup > > wrote: > >> While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start > >> the process of deprecating and removing support

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Robert Coup
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > Agreed. mod_python was already "not recommended" for very long; now > it's dead, I don't see any reason to support it for three full release > cycles. I don't either, but I figured the deprecation policy[1] applies to deployment-related

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Gustavo Narea wrote: >> Whoops, I wan't aware of this topic when I posted this: >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/2e20f4ae486800a1 >> >> Anyway, I'm +1 on this. >> >> O

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Robert Coup > wrote: >> While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start >> the process of deprecating and removing support for mod_python. Why? > > The other huge win -- besides your

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Jerome Leclanche
Agreed. mod_python was already "not recommended" for very long; now it's dead, I don't see any reason to support it for three full release cycles. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Gustavo Narea wrote: >> Whoops, I wan't aware of this topic w

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Gustavo Narea wrote: > Whoops, I wan't aware of this topic when I posted this: > > http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/2e20f4ae486800a1 > > Anyway, I'm +1 on this. > > On Jun 22, 10:47 pm, Robert Coup wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> Wh

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Gustavo Narea
Whoops, I wan't aware of this topic when I posted this: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/2e20f4ae486800a1 Anyway, I'm +1 on this. On Jun 22, 10:47 pm, Robert Coup wrote: > Hey folks, > > While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start >

Making WSGIHandler the only handler / mod_python support

2010-06-22 Thread Gustavo Narea
Hello, I'm going to work on some patches to improve WSGI support, and I found something that, if changed, could make my patches and django.core.handlers simpler... As well as make it possible to use WSGI middleware with Django under mod_python. At the moment, Django has two so-called handlers:

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Robert Coup wrote: > While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start > the process of deprecating and removing support for mod_python. Why? The other huge win -- besides your great versions -- is that without mod_python support Django just be

Re: 1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > The other huge win -- besides your great versions -- is that without ... er, *reasons*. Damned wires getting crossed in my brain. Jacob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers"

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Waldemar Kornewald > wrote: > My initial impression of django-filetransfers is that you've > constructed a lot of very complex infrastructure for what is > ultimately a couple of very simple changes --

1.3: Start deprecating mod_python?

2010-06-22 Thread Robert Coup
Hey folks, While people are throwing around 1.3 ideas... I think we should start the process of deprecating and removing support for mod_python. Why? * mod_wsgi is better in every way. * mod_python hasn't had a release since 2007, or a commit since 2008; it's a dead end. The Apache Foundation b

Re: test-refactor update

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul McMillan wrote: > I've posted an update with my project status. I made a little progress > this week, converting 7 model tests. In order to meet my goals for > finishing the project, I plan to be converting 25 directories a week > moving forward. I have two

Re: [GSOC] Query Refactor Update

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > Hey all, > > This past week was mostly spent getting lookup's working (and > negation), that's gone fairly well.  Well enough, in fact, that I > spent most of today getting some low hanging fruit working: namely > ordering, slicing, and values

Re: Proposal: First-class WSGI support in Django 1.3 / twod.wsgi

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Gustavo Narea wrote: > Hello. > > On Jun 14, 1:39 pm, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> Ok - at this point, I'm broadly happy with your proposals (subject to >> the caveats I've given along the way). The next step is to show us >> actual code. This won't get applied

Re: Why are admin actions not available as buttons in the change view?

2010-06-22 Thread Flo Ledermann
Jannis, thanks for the quick and competent reply. It's always fascinating how one can fail in searching for existing issues and discussions ;) Flo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django

Re: Why are admin actions not available as buttons in the change view?

2010-06-22 Thread Jannis Leidel
Hi Flo, > I am just wondering why the admin actions are only available through > the dropdown in the changelist and not as buttons in the change view > of the object - this is a much requested feature (see > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/5412 and > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2409

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > Hi, > first I should say that I'm not 100% sure if this feature should be in > Django core, so I'm kind-of asking for you opinion. > > Problem: > Currently, Django already has an API for file uploads, but it's not > useful for the new cl

Why are admin actions not available as buttons in the change view?

2010-06-22 Thread Flo Ledermann
I am just wondering why the admin actions are only available through the dropdown in the changelist and not as buttons in the change view of the object - this is a much requested feature (see http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/5412 and http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2409 for slightly outda

Re: Feature Request

2010-06-22 Thread Simon Meers
On 22 June 2010 19:59, Massimiliano della Rovere < massimiliano.dellarov...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyway using this method I can't sort columns any more. > This is why I was suggesting having links created by the framework: > callable aren't sortable. > They can be -- set admin_order_field on the c

Re: Feature Request

2010-06-22 Thread Massimiliano della Rovere
Anyway using this method I can't sort columns any more. This is why I was suggesting having links created by the framework: callable aren't sortable. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 15:37, Karen Tracey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Massimiliano della Rovere < > massimiliano.dellarov...@gmail

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Gert Van Gool wrote: > What's wrong with the current StorageBackends? > Apart from the fact that everything goes through Django first, which imho > isn't a bad default solution (easier for parsing and the like...). Just to clarify: django-filetransfers is an addit

Re: [GSOC] Query Refactor Update

2010-06-22 Thread Sergej dergatsjev eecho
+ 1 emulation 2010/6/22 Alex Gaynor : > Hey all, > > This past week was mostly spent getting lookup's working (and > negation), that's gone fairly well.  Well enough, in fact, that I > spent most of today getting some low hanging fruit working: namely > ordering, slicing, and values.  In slicing w

proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
Hi, first I should say that I'm not 100% sure if this feature should be in Django core, so I'm kind-of asking for you opinion. Problem: Currently, Django already has an API for file uploads, but it's not useful for the new cloud-based file services which support the more efficient asynchronous upl

Re: Query Refactor Update

2010-06-22 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
Hi Alex, On Jun 22, 4:01 am, Alex Gaynor wrote: > Hey all, > > This past week was mostly spent getting lookup's working (and > negation), that's gone fairly well.  Well enough, in fact, that I > spent most of today getting some low hanging fruit working: namely > ordering, slicing, and values.  I

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-06-22 Thread Gert Van Gool
What's wrong with the current StorageBackends? Apart from the fact that everything goes through Django first, which imho isn't a bad default solution (easier for parsing and the like...). -- Gert Mobile: +32 498725202 Web: http://gert.selentic.net On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:55, Waldemar Kornewa