Hello,
There’ve been lots of brainstorming on this topic. It is now tracked in this
ticket: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21676. I’ve also sent a pull
request: https://github.com/django/django/pull/2128.
There’s a consensus on the general idea:
- AppConfigs are a good place for startup
On 30 déc. 2013, at 13:29, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> ## Solution 2.a — Require users to call django.setup() before they use the
> ORM. setup() would configure the settings and populate the app registry.
> (…)
> I’m currently working on this and I’ll add a commit to the pull request
> (which I’
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> The real question — is requiring django.setup() acceptable? Explicit is
> better than implicit, after all…
It's probably obvious to others, but where would that `django.setup()` be?
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> On 30 déc. 2013, at 13:29, Aymeric Augustin
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> wrote:
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> The real question — is requiring django.setup() acceptable? Explicit is
> better than implicit, after all…
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As far as I can see only people who l
On 30 déc. 2013, at 17:37, Ryan Hiebert wrote:
> It's probably obvious to others, but where would that `django.setup()` be?
import django
django.setup()
Since setup() couples django.apps and django.conf, putting it into the django
package seemed appropriate.
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First, a big +1 for improved app-loading sequence.
Problem 2: my vote for solution 2.b. This seems to be the most reliable
way. Quick throwaway scripts will need two more lines of boilerplate code
but that is easily worth the added reliability.
I have a question about problem 1: Are model impor
On 30 déc. 2013, at 21:10, Anssi Kääriäinen wrote:
> I have a question about problem 1: Are model imports going to be allowed from
> app modules? I believe allowing this will cause problems later on.
While it doesn’t seem especially useful and hardly a good practice, it’s
currently possible. I
I would suggest that Anssi's issues with model loading ordering are helped
best by having `django.setup()` and doing away with the magical "I created
a Model subclass and my app registry hot populated" issues. The proposed
solution 2a seems best to me. It has never been clear how Django
initialised
On another note, if you're going to muck about with a model in an existing
app (perhaps for a very good reason like Permission) the best way of doing
that (IMO) would be to create a subclassed AppConfig, get the relevant
model from Apps in the setup() method and modify it directly there (add
fields
On 30 déc. 2013, at 21:51, Marc Tamlyn wrote:
> doing away with the magical "I created a Model subclass and my app registry
> hot populated" issues.
>
This is ModelBase.__new__, another scary beast I haven’t attacked yet :)
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On 30 déc. 2013, at 21:59, Marc Tamlyn wrote:
> On another note, if you're going to muck about with a model in an existing
> app (perhaps for a very good reason like Permission) the best way of doing
> that (IMO) would be to create a subclassed AppConfig, get the relevant model
> from Apps in t
Heh, I forgot that contribute to class isn't documented. On second
thoughts, let's not document this unless we actually have a good API for it.
On 30 Dec 2013 21:05, "Aymeric Augustin"
wrote:
> On 30 déc. 2013, at 21:59, Marc Tamlyn wrote:
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> On another note, if you're going to muck about with
Hi Aymeric,
First off - a *huge* thanks for all the work your doing on app reloading.
I can't begin to express how much gratitude I have for the work you're
doing here.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Aymeric Augustin <
aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There’ve been lots
Aymeric,
As with the others, I'd like to echo my thanks! Having spent a lot of
time with the old AppCache, I think these are solid improvements. Just a
couple thoughts/questions from me.
On Problem #1, IMO, I'd prefer to see something akin to an
``AppConfig.setup`` (before anything i
Aymeric,
Your work is amazing and has improved Django so much. Your work on timezone
support, the transaction overhaul and now this app changes makes my and a
lot of other peoples experience with Django so much better. Thank you!
2013/12/30 Aymeric Augustin
> ## Solution 2.a — Require users to
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