Hi.
I have to ask, did you search the history at all here? This has been
discussed *several times* over the years.
> Bringing View-level concepts such as forms down into celery tasks and
management commands breaks separation of concerns...
I think it's an error to think of forms (please read
Hey Jacob. Thanks for this.
Can I ask you to give a few examples of potential usages in Django, and
showing the gain over use a set in these cases?
I'm trying to imagine exactly what you have in mind, but I'm not entirely
clear.
Thanks again.
Carlton
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:04 AM Carlton Gibson
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> On Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 06:29:30 UTC+2 aa...@aaronsmith.co
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>> Why doesn't Django validate Models on save()?
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>> I am aware that full_clean() is called when using ModelForms. But most
>> web ap
Hi folks,
According to the Django's release process document[1], there should be a
signed tag for 4.1.1 yet I do not see it listed:
https://github.com/django/django/tags
Thanks.
[1] https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/release-process/
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Yes, I did search, and I did not find an answer to my question.
If one is always supposed to use a ModelForm, why isn't that ModelForm
functionality part of the Model?
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 1:04:17 AM UTC-7 carlton...@gmail.com
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> Hi.
>
> I have to ask, did you search the hi
Why doesn't Django validate Models on save()?
I am aware that full_clean() is called when using ModelForms. But most web
app development these days, and every django app I've ever worked with, are
headless APIs. The default behavior is dangerous for the naive developer.
Bringing View-level conc
All I was able to find was that it was for "performance reasons", and I
refuse to believe that a mature web framework like Django would prioritize
performance (let's face it - even my millions-of-requests-per-day API
service doesn't care about a few extra milliseconds here and there) over
the m
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022, at 14:29, Aaron Smith wrote:
> Why doesn't Django validate Models on save()?
The short answer is: backwards compatibility.
Model level validation hasn't always been a thing, with Django initially
depending primarily on Form validation.
Since it hadn't _always_ been there, i
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 6:19 PM Curtis Maloney wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2022, at 14:29, Aaron Smith wrote:
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> Why doesn't Django validate Models on save()?
>
>
> The short answer is: backwards compatibility.
>
> Model level validation hasn't always been a thing, with Django initially
> depending
How about a new class, `ValidatedModel`, that subclasses `Model` and does
nothing more than call `full_clean()` on `save()`?
This would be completely backwards compatible, would clearly communicate
what it does, and when documented right next to `Model` make it fairly
obvious that Model is some
Carl,
All ORMs I have worked with allow you to bypass validations when necessary.
Sometimes you have to. But the path of greatest naivety should be as safe
as possible. I cannot even imagine how many lost hours and economic damages
have occurred because the easy path is the dangerous path. I ha
I would also like everyone to know, my objective in starting this thread is
to get the go-ahead to open a PR for this. I would like to contribute back.
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 6:30:32 PM UTC-7 Aaron Smith wrote:
> How about a new class, `ValidatedModel`, that subclasses `Model` and do
Hi,
Regardless of what you consider ModelForms to be, the fact that validation
doesn't happen at the model level is very jarring if you've ever used any
other MVC framework, it was and still is one of the major pet peeves of
Django for me, to the point where we do something similar to what Uri
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