Re: Django releases

2008-06-09 Thread Deryck Hodge
's the harm in a single release until then? Not just to quiet the nay-sayers, but many, many people just don't notice the activity going on in Django without a release to call attention to it. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ --~--~-~--~~~--

Re: Django releases

2008-06-07 Thread Deryck Hodge
erns or questions is necessarily that kind of person. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post t

Re: Rethinking silent failures in templates

2008-05-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
not just tie it to the DEBUG setting? That is the worry, after all, right? -- that a production site will 500. Development it doesn't matter, and generally, people use DEBUG to distinguish the two. Just a quick thought... I haven't looked at the code to know the implications of using DEBUG as the flag. C

Re: Django 1.0 features -- the definitive list

2007-11-30 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Nov 30, 2007 12:33 AM, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, finally, a bit of a controversial statement, but... > > I think we ought to call the release 2.0. > +1 It's not an unprecedented idea across OSS projects. We jumped from samba 3.0.14 to 3.0.20 when we had a slew of

Re: Python history won't work in Django shell (maybe found bug?)

2007-11-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Nov 14, 2007 4:02 AM, Todd O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I submitted a patch as http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/5936 > > Should be an easy change, I hope. > > Hi, Todd. Were you using --plain and still wanting the history and tab completion, or was use_plain being incorrectly

Re: Python history won't work in Django shell (maybe found bug?)

2007-11-13 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Nov 13, 2007 3:48 PM, Todd O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if not use_plain: ># here's where it uses PYTHONSTARTUP and stuff > > Why the heck is that "if not use_plain" there? If I take it out, > Collin's lovely history script works, even in the Django shell. And I > can't figure out

Re: Custom permissions and contenttypes

2007-09-28 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/28/07, eXt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > >Custom content types without a model give me a lot of flexibility. > For example: > > 1. I've got a bunch of reports which are generated by Jasper Reports. > In my Django app I have some groups of users and each of them should > see a

Re: Custom permissions and contenttypes

2007-09-28 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/28/07, Rob Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there anything in Django to "register" a custom content type or > permission that the ContentType object can call on to determine if a > content type is registered, and if not, remove it? Or could one be > added? > It's the custom content

Re: MEDIA_URL and trailing slash (documentation)

2007-09-22 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/22/07, Martin Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, please ignore my previous post. I did not understand what you > really meant. :-/ > > SmileyChris wrote: > >> Common use is now href="{{ MEDIA_URL }}images/a.png" > >> so it seems to me like you should *always* put a trailing slash

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-21 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Chris Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As an aside, is anyone talking about seriously using this for access > control? We've established that using X-F-F is a bad idea for that, in > fact, I'd say that even known REMOTE_ADDR based auth is a bad idea, so > why does it matter

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-21 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Leo Soto M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A quick Google search turns up that this is indeed easily configurable > > for both Squid and mod_proxy and the defaults look sane. > > W

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-20 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Leo Soto M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess I would challenge the notion, too, that you can't trust the > > client IP when you trust the proxy or proxies, at least in the sense > &g

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-20 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Leo Soto M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > But what about the case of multiple trusted proxies (not the case of > > the client acting as a proxy)? Or what about if the proxy sends the >

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-20 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Leo Soto M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/20/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I completely agree you shouldn't use this middleware unless you know > > and trust the proxy setup, but I can easily imagine (large corporate > > net

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-20 Thread Deryck Hodge
Hi, Leo. On 9/20/07, Leo Soto M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wikipedia isn't confirming that the first IP should be taken. It says > that the first entry is the "farthest downstream client". But if you > are going to believe it, you are blindly trusting on every downstream > client who is

Re: Help needed with X-Forwarded-For

2007-09-20 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/20/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Howdy folks -- > > So I need a bit of help figuring out how to handle X-Forwarded-For, > and specifically what to do in the presance of multiple IPs. > > Django's SetRemoteAddrFromForwardedFor middleware used to take the > *first* item

Re: Do you need more committers/triagers?

2007-09-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/19/07, Yuri Baburov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I won't presume to speak for the core devs, but who wouldn't answer > > "yes" to the question of need for more committers! :-) > Then we need the "process of becoming committer". > I don't want a worthless discussion on this question, like

Re: Do you need more committers/triagers?

2007-09-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/19/07, Yuri Baburov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Django core developers, > > Do you need more committers/triagers? > > Reasons for: > * Opened tickets count is increasing faster then decreasing. > * Community is growing and expanding fast. > * Simple bugs are not fixed. > * Tickets

Re: Missing patch files on code.djangoproject.com

2007-09-18 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/18/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/18/07, Honza Král <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I could reupload that one, but there are other patches missing (even > > in that ticked) that I do not have... :( > > Yeah; I'm trying to find where they went -- did rsync just

Re: Let's schedule a Django sprint

2007-09-05 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 9/5/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's about time we scheduled an official Django sprint. We've got a > bunch of features that are almost done but haven't yet been > committed/merged -- including newforms-admin, ORM aggregate support, > multi-DB support and GeoDjango.

svn:ignore for new management package

2007-08-22 Thread Deryck Hodge
Hi, all. svn:ignore is not set for .pyc files on the new management package. I know I can set my own global svn config, but since we do it for all the rest of Django, I thought I would point it out. Is mentioning it here sufficient, or should I open a ticket? Cheers, deryck

Re: Adding SVN revision identifier to version

2007-08-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Sean Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 17, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> >> At the very least, your patch would need to catch the inevitable >> error. Better yet would be an approach that doesn't require an >> external call. Is there

Re: Adding SVN revision identifier to version

2007-08-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Aug 17, 2007, at 8:49 PM, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On 8/18/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 8/17/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What does this accomplish t

Re: Adding SVN revision identifier to version

2007-08-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
On Aug 17, 2007, at 8:49 PM, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On 8/18/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 8/17/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What does this accomplish t

Re: Adding SVN revision identifier to version

2007-08-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 8/17/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/17/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So instead of 0.97-pre the version would be 0.97-pre-SVN-5919. This > > might help make it easier to track down what revision people are > > runni

Adding SVN revision identifier to version

2007-08-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
Hi, all. Reading the Django users list, I saw someone mention not knowing what the "pre" meant in the version string returned by django-admin.py. This made me think of version numbers more generally, and I wondered if others saw value in appending an SVN revision identifier on the version

Re: manage.py idea?

2007-08-15 Thread Deryck Hodge
The existing post_syncdb hook could be extended to clear unused content types as well as create new ones. You would have to remember to run syncdb after a reset though, but this would be better than reseting all content types or adding another option IMHO. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge Lea

Re: Taming management.py, the 1730-line behemoth

2007-08-15 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 8/15/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to split this into several files, turning > > django.core.management into a package. The purest way of splitting the > > functionality would

Re: Taming management.py, the 1730-line behemoth

2007-08-15 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 8/15/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to split this into several files, turning > django.core.management into a package. The purest way of splitting the > functionality would be to give each manage.py action ("runserver", > "syncdb", etc.) its own Python module, like

Re: Autoescaping: good time?

2007-08-01 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 8/1/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is autoescaping being on *really* that big a deal to you? How many > places do your variables actually contain HTML? And if the answer is > "many", then is it really all that big a deal to make a one-time > modification to your base

Re: Proposal: QuerySet.exists() method

2007-07-13 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/13/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to add a QuerySet.exists() method, which would return True or > False if the given QuerySet contains at least one record. This would > be more efficient than qs.count() or len(qs) because it would perform > the following SQL

Re: Patch vs checkin

2007-07-11 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/11/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/11/07, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, it might be worth the project's time to pick a distributed VCS > > and host mirrors on djangoproject.com. > > Tom's Mercurial mirror is

Re: Patch vs checkin

2007-07-11 Thread Deryck Hodge
want that overhead, but we're doing something similar for Samba and it hasn't been too painful at all. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge Lead Developer, Product Development Washington Post.Newsweek Interactive Samba Team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this m

Re: Improperly Configured

2007-04-12 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 4/12/07, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\django\db\backends\postgresql > \base.py", line 12, in > raise ImproperlyConfigured, "Error loading psycopg module: %s" % e > django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: Error loading psycopg >

Re: Backwards incompatible changes

2007-04-06 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 4/6/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like Jeremy's idea of posting to django-users and django-announce, > saying the development version will be a bit tumultuous for the > immediate future. I'll send out that announcement. > Would it also be worth updating the FAQ?

Re: ANN: Please welcome Django's new release manager!

2007-01-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/19/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Howdy folks -- > > Please join me in welcoming James Bennett as Django's release manager! > Indeed! Welcome as release manager, James! Cheers, deryck --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Some thoughts on our security policy as we head towards 1.0

2007-01-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/19/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And that's a lot to think about and discuss, so I'll stop there for now, but if anybody's got other concerns/ideas about the security policy, I think we should get them out in the open and discuss them; this is already really important stuff

Re: Some thoughts on our security policy as we head towards 1.0

2007-01-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/19/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Down the road, it might also be useful to have some sort of designated liasion from the dev team to third-party package maintainers, both so they'd have someone they know they can contact on the Django team, and so we'd have someone who knows

Re: Some thoughts on our security policy as we head towards 1.0

2007-01-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/19/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. When a security fix is released without a new Django release accompanying it, update the current release tarball listed on the download page. Upside: the official release tarball will always have the latest security fixes applied.

Re: Schema Evolution branch?

2007-01-18 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Radziej wrote: > > In such an environment, central > > branches aren't needed; everyone with a copy of the source repository > > can branch it on their local system. Have you checked out SVK? (

Re: ANN: Upgrading code.djangoproject.com

2007-01-17 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 1/17/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd also like to take this time to welcome Django's new official ticket > managers: > > * Chris Beaven (aka SmileyChris) > * Simon Greenhill > * Michael Radziej > * Gary Wilson > > Although anyone can --

ManyToManyField Join Table Name

2006-12-08 Thread Deryck Hodge
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Re: Branch Merges?

2006-11-07 Thread Deryck Hodge
where the release manager is not one of the core architects and is really interested in stable releases, rather than larger architectural choices. And, of course, you need someone devs can trust and communicate with as well... but you get the idea. Just a thought I've been wanting to share....

Re: Dev policy, was Re: Ticket spam

2006-11-04 Thread Deryck Hodge
nities for good developers to get involved, which I think Django is doing as well as any other project right now. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge Web Developer, Product Development Washington Post.Newsweek Interactive Webmaster, Samba Team http://washingtonpost.com/ http://newsweek.com/ http://sam

Re: attribute__isnull=True vs attribute__exact=None (Ticket 2737)

2006-10-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
e lookup simple. Just lookup for all possible parameters, knowing that any unused parameters will be set to None and safely ignored. We used this several times at Naples News while I was there. I always assumed, perhaps incorrectly :-), that this use of None was intentional. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck H

Re: Local unicode-related fixes

2006-09-15 Thread Deryck Hodge
not a bad idea. Especially as developer time has to be used efficiently. > - function encodeErrors in the comments of > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2727 (which may deserve a separate > ticket?) Yes, there may be more than one issue there. Cheers, deryck -- D

django-updates not working?

2006-09-15 Thread Deryck Hodge
Hi, all. Haven't seen any activity in a couple days on django-updates. Is something wrong with the list? Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ Web Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samba Team

Re: Patches, Tests and All the Rest (was: Ticket #648 -- {# comment goes here #} style comments)

2006-09-13 Thread Deryck Hodge
quicker. The larger then number with commit access, the larger the time spent managing code, cleaning up for releases, and other general project maintenance issues. You have to strike a balance between these competing forces, IMHO.) Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://ww

Limit Fields for serializers.serialize

2006-09-06 Thread Deryck Hodge
, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Web Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samba Team http://www.samba.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: JavaScript and Changeset 3541

2006-08-19 Thread Deryck Hodge
AX or not I can't say. There are others here who could speak to their own use and appreciation of JavaScript and AJAX. So I don't think its fair to say "many of you don't like ajax" just because Django doesn't ship with a JS toolkit. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge

Re: Security questions

2006-08-13 Thread Deryck Hodge
MAIL PROTECTED]' . > Something we've done in Samba that seems useful is a security page to track past vulnerabilities and what versions are affected, which also includes the patch for the affected version. See http://samba.org/samba/history/security.html. Can't really do something like this until

Re: A final post-0.91 release?

2006-08-11 Thread Deryck Hodge
e first place -- but I figured it was worth pointing > out. I'd much rather be on current SVN myself. :-) My interest is just in killing bugs. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Web Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samb

Re: A final post-0.91 release?

2006-08-11 Thread Deryck Hodge
Scripps, too). Even if not an actual release, just compiling a set of patches known to be useful for those on pre-mr releases would be nice. Whatever works best, though. I don't mind helping if something like this is feasible. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.

Re: Convince us to continue using setuptools

2006-08-02 Thread Deryck Hodge
en email. :-) (Stupidity for confusing distutils and setuptools. I really didn't realize setup.py install had been used for years and years. I've only been writing Python a couple years myself. :-) Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Web Develo

Re: Convince us to continue using setuptools

2006-08-02 Thread Deryck Hodge
network connection that's the major issue, don't do ez_setup. Just require users have setuptools installed. It's so common, I think, they'll have to install setuptools eventually when dealing with Python. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ W

Re: Free SVN and Issue Tracker

2006-07-28 Thread Deryck Hodge
oups.google.com/group/codesite-discuss. Post the error, though, when you ask for help. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samba Team http:

Re: Default escaping -- again!

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
g that can be toggled on or off is not a sane solution. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samba Team http://www.samba.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~

Re: simonslaw/matt the destroyer

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
| * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c :-) :-) Cheer

Re: Default escaping -- again!

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/27/06, Luke Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 27 July 2006 19:47, Deryck Hodge wrote: > > > But how is remembering to do {! var !} any easier than remembering {{ > > var|escape }}? I think that's the issue most people had, that > > escapi

Re: Default escaping -- again!

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
s escaping automatically, and {! !} doesn't. > But how is remembering to do {! var !} any easier than remembering {{ var|escape }}? I think that's the issue most people had, that escaping is easy to overlook. Not that I have any problem per se with your use of punctuation. ;-) :-) Cheer

Re: Consider releasing a .95 beta

2006-07-27 Thread Deryck Hodge
Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Developer, Naples News http://www.naplesnews.com/ Samba Team http://www.samba.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: trac updates/changesets not being sent?

2006-07-10 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/10/06, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/7/06, Deryck Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did this ever get resolved? The thread looks like docs generation was > > fixed but I see nothing about the django-updates list. I still > > have

Re: trac updates/changesets not being sent?

2006-07-08 Thread Deryck Hodge
On 7/8/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nope.. it never did. > I just use the RSS feed instead. > That will work for me as well. Thanks for the pointer, Ian. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Team

Re: trac updates/changesets not being sent?

2006-07-07 Thread Deryck Hodge
ut the django-updates list. I still haven't seen anything to that list since early June. Is it no longer used? Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Teamhttp://www.samba.org/ To begin... To begin... How to start? I'm hungry

#2211, #2192, #1754 patch the same issue

2006-06-26 Thread Deryck Hodge
is already a string. Didn't find the other patches when I submitted my patch, so I thought I'd mention the duplicates. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Teamhttp://www.samba.org/ To begin... To begin... How to start? I'm

Re: Better input validation (was Proposal: default escaping)

2006-06-22 Thread Deryck Hodge
ce. But again, I'm not sure on this one. (b) would work just as well. Flip a coin. ;-) Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Teamhttp://www.samba.org/ To begin... To begin

Re: Copyright and Contributions

2006-06-21 Thread Deryck Hodge
emember hearing something similar from others (not sure if they were lawyers or not) regarding explicit copyright. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Teamhttp://www.samba.org/ To begin... To begin... How to start? I'm hung

Copyright and Contributions

2006-06-21 Thread Deryck Hodge
know the license is BSD, I'm just curious about the project's handling of copyright). Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodgehttp://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Teamhttp://www.samba.org/ To begin... To begin... How to start? I'm hungry. I should get coffee

Re: Proposal: default escaping

2006-06-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
be off by default with the same on-and-offable tags listed here. I'd rather make the conscious choice to escape rather than unescape. And your still backwards compatible at that point. But I can live with on by default, too. :-) Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ http:

Re: Proposal: default escaping

2006-06-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
cide when to turn on/off, so why change the default? I just like the idea of adding a {% autoescape %} or something similar much better. Just my .02... Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ http://www.samba.org/ "Aimless days, uncoo

Re: Proposal: default escaping

2006-06-14 Thread Deryck Hodge
template file itself. The > above example might become something like this: I think this is better. Then it's still my choice, but I'm capable of applying escaping more quickly and easily. It's about efficiency again. :-) Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ http://www.s

Samba Project News Site Goes Django

2006-06-13 Thread Deryck Hodge
Maybe not entirely appropriate on the developers list, so please forgive Just wanted to say from one project to another, thanks for the great tool. We've just moved our Samba news site into Django. http://news.samba.org/announcements/we_go_django/ Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http