Re: Overhaul extra_requires to include more optional dependencies

2017-12-29 Thread Reinout van Rees
tion, right? Second, I wonder whether the one-item extras are really needed. If you want to use numpy, you'll install numpy yourself. You don't really need 'Django[numpy]' to tell you to install numpy. admindocs->docutils: yes, that's handy numpy->numpy

Re: change commit message format to present tense?

2016-06-27 Thread Reinout van Rees
django using `pip install django`. - Add a database. - Run `python manage.py ` Reinout -- Reinout van Rees http://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "Learning history by destroying artifacts is a tim

Re: change commit message format to present tense?

2016-06-25 Thread Reinout van Rees
s git's user interface instead of from our English teachers? We don't have to order git to do something, we have to communicate what we've done to fellow programmers. I'm not a native English speaker, so I might be missing some nuances. Perhaps it is

Re: Two proposals for the Django Code of Conduct.

2014-09-09 Thread Reinout van Rees
fficial-django-conference excuses. Reading the entire thread, it doesn't seem like the intention is to start a full-out thought police. In your opinion, wouldn't this mailinglist thread be enough of a safeguard against unwanted use of the pull request? Reinout -- Reinout van

Re: Time to drop support for Oracle < 11?

2014-06-16 Thread Reinout van Rees
on 11. With one or two still migrating from 10... :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Rees http://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "Learning history by destroying artifacts is a time-honored atrocity" -- Yo

Re: Add an extra parameter to 'static' tag

2014-06-01 Thread Reinout van Rees
he right way around :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham" -- You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: Epydoc failed to generate documentation for Django 1.5

2013-04-04 Thread Reinout van Rees
no handy way of supporting such an introspective tool. Can you ignore files in epydoc? Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham&q

Re: DjangoCon Europe tickets on sale today!

2013-02-27 Thread Reinout van Rees
ocon Hm. I notice that the djangocon.eu videos aren't there. 2011's are here: http://blip.tv/djangocon-europe-2011 2012's can be downloaded. You probably can google around for the rest. Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.o

Re: ANNOUNCE: Django 1.5 release candidate 2, Django 1.4.4, Django 1.3.6 (security releases)

2013-02-20 Thread Reinout van Rees
.com/en/1.4/ref/settings/#allowed-hosts Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham" -- You received this message because yo

Re: Proposal: use SQLAlchemy Core for query generation

2012-07-03 Thread Reinout van Rees
y isolated virtualenv, so the clicky-clicky-install python database drivers (and other binary eggs) won't get used. So: pip sounds great right until you need binaries on windows. Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org h

Re: Django's CVB - Roadmap?

2012-06-02 Thread Reinout van Rees
oo complex? - All those generic views muck up the PR a lot. A CBV seems intended for a generic view. But it is (more) useful outside those. Summary: I love CBVs. The PR for them sucks because generic views turn it into a veritable feast of mixins. Reinout -- Reinout van Rees

Re: Tagging 1.4 django release in Subversion

2012-03-26 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 27-03-12 02:47, James Bennett wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Reinout van Rees wrote: > Having a release before the tag? Sounds weird to me. Making a tag is > integral to the actual release, right? Curious:-) The tag and the release package are both just the same revisio

Re: Tagging 1.4 django release in Subversion

2012-03-26 Thread Reinout van Rees
eird to me. Making a tag is integral to the actual release, right? Curious :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham&qu

Re: Django 1.4 beta 1 released

2012-02-17 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 17-02-12 00:06, Carl Meyer wrote: On 02/16/2012 03:35 PM, Reinout van Rees wrote: > Partially related question: several tickets have a pull request on > github instead of an svn patch. Is that enough? I assume a real svn > patch is better? A link on the ticket to a github branc

Re: Django 1.4 beta 1 released

2012-02-16 Thread Reinout van Rees
ave questions and don't want to bug the mailing-list. I've fallen off the open-irc-in-the-morning habit since I don't work in a company with remote workers anymore. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks for the tips! Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.va

Re: Moving to ... Github vs Bitbucket

2012-02-16 Thread Reinout van Rees
ice at the time. But when every single source code link in a presentation (except for the talk by bitbucket itself) points at github, it is very difficult to argue for anything else than github. (So I stopped arguing for bitbucket at the office and we're using github now). Reinout

Re: Django 1.4 beta 1 released

2012-02-16 Thread Reinout van Rees
w next time? Some keyword on the ticket that I can look for? Am I allowed to bug the mailinglist? Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something

Re: AJAX generic views

2012-02-05 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 03-02-12 09:43, gert wrote: I've been using the class based views from day one and loving it! It would be great if there was a generic view to bring some consistency to the way everybody implements AJAX. Or if not a view then maybe a mixin or two (JSONResponseMixin used in the documentation

Re: RFC: "universal" view decorators

2011-09-17 Thread Reinout van Rees
elegant and readable. Just mentioning that as I'm real happy with class based views :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something.

Re: RFC: "universal" view decorators

2011-09-16 Thread Reinout van Rees
een 6 and 8: you just cannot juggle 3 base classes, 4 mixins and 2 method names at the same time. => A mixin isn't necessarily clearer than a decorator. Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuu

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-13 Thread Reinout van Rees
u can do anything destructive with it. So it sounds like we don't need the proxy. Good that you added it anyway as it helps us dig deeper into the problem :-) Luckily it seems we don't have to dig very deep. Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanr

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-12 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 12-09-11 18:25, Florian Apolloner wrote: On Monday, September 12, 2011 5:39:03 PM UTC+2, Reinout van Rees wrote: Addition: disallow attributes/methods starting with an underscore? That's a handy way to stow away dangerous methods should you have them in your view. T

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-12 Thread Reinout van Rees
oting in the foot is when you have a form view that reacts to get() and post(). Upon "get()", the template *could* call data-modifying methods on the class. Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-04 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 04-09-11 21:28, Reinout van Rees wrote: On the other hand, from an object oriented viewpoint, the class based views seem to be pretty powerless and non-object-oriented. To me, it almost seems like they're artificially "castrated" to make function views look good :-) That

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-04 Thread Reinout van Rees
from local() into the context dictionary or something like that? Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure what to do, make something. -- Paul Graham" -- You receiv

Re: class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-02 Thread Reinout van Rees
] Patches welcome;-) I haven't got a patch (yet), but I at least created a ticket for it: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/16744 Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you&#x

class based views: object instead of dictionary as context?

2011-09-01 Thread Reinout van Rees
ean you get the view object in your template, right? But Django doesn't do it. So... is there a specific reason for it? Reinout -- Reinout van Reeshttp://reinout.vanrees.org/ rein...@vanrees.org http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl/ "If you're not sure

Re: Google Organic Search Results for Documentation

2010-08-13 Thread Reinout van Rees
(via the xml sitemap, for instance) to prefer the /dev docs over the /1.2 docs? I'd say the /1.2 links would be more user friendly to get for default google incoming traffic. Reinout -- Reinout van Rees - rein...@vanrees.org - http://reinout.vanrees.org Programmer at http://www.nelen-schuurman

Re: Feature idea

2010-06-02 Thread Reinout van Rees
ument) Some longer explanation: http://tinyurl.com/ylf3kjb Reinout -- Reinout van Rees - rein...@vanrees.org - http://reinout.vanrees.org Programmer at http://www.nelen-schuurmans.nl "Military engineers build missiles. Civil engineers build targets" -- You received this message becaus

Re: Proposal: First-class WSGI support in Django 1.3 / twod.wsgi

2010-06-02 Thread Reinout van Rees
, it isn't middleware anymore. It should be part of your application. I don't really have an opinion about this myself (yet). Do you know what the current way of thinking on this is? Reinout -- Reinout van Rees - rein...@vanrees.org - http://reinout.vanrees.org Programmer at http://www

Re: Default ordering on User model

2010-05-21 Thread Reinout van Rees
ave many users/groups?". If True, several screens don't attempt to list all users, do sorting, etc. Instead search fields are used. So: best of both worlds. But there's of course some extra code here and there with "if LARGE_AMOUNT_OF_USERS... else ...". Reinout -

Re: djangocon.eu sprints (was Re: Class based generic views in 1.3?)

2010-05-14 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 05/14/2010 04:27 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Reinout van Rees wrote: ... I'm used to Plone sprints and there's usually some "make sure you have svn access to x and y" stuff best handled *before* the sprint, that's why I'm aski

djangocon.eu sprints (was Re: Class based generic views in 1.3?)

2010-05-14 Thread Reinout van Rees
to handle beforehand? I'm used to Plone sprints and there's usually some "make sure you have svn access to x and y" stuff best handled *before* the sprint, that's why I'm asking :-) Reinout -- Reinout van Rees - rein...@vanrees.org - http://reinout.vanree

Re: Trac workflow assistance (commiter feedback needed)

2010-04-26 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 04/25/2010 05:15 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: However, the *huge* impediment that you have avoided mentioning is that moving to Launchpad would require moving Django to using Bazaar for version control. Moving to a DVCS has been proposed many times in the past, and rejected. The reasons for