Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-13 Thread Adam Jenkins
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, h3 wrote: > Most of them were competent developers, but they didn't see the point > of learning a how to get started with Django because it seemed too > complicated to setup and use for starters. So they preferred to stay > in their comfort zone: PHP. One option

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-13 Thread Alec Taylor
Agreed On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:00 AM, h3 wrote: >> Beyond that, what I am wondering is how much users will be able understand >> how Django work if they can't do the installation. > > Each year I accept foreign students for internship in my company and > most of then either never heard of Dja

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-13 Thread h3
> Beyond that, what I am wondering is how much users will be able to understand > how Django work if they can't do the installation. Each year I accept foreign students for internship in my company and most of then either never heard of Django or didn't bother to learn how it works just to try it

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Mikhail Korobov
Hi all, There are a lot of projects for making django deployment easier (a bit of them are listed here: http://djangopackages.com/grids/g/deployment/ ) but there is no clear winner, everybody have different preferences and requirements. I think this all doesn't relate to development of django

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Xavier Ordoquy
Le 13 sept. 2011 à 05:44, Justine Tunney a écrit : > I agree with you that reducing the barriers to using Django is very > important. But what we need is not necessarily a web based installer, but > something to get people off the ground so they can start playing around with > Django very qui

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Justine Tunney
The only reason Drupal is able to do that is because every cheap web hosting provider supports PHP. If we made a web gui installer, the only people who'd be able to use it would be people with root access and they're better off using apt-get. There's no way to get people running Django on their c

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread h3
I think pretty much everything have been said about why this isn't practical and why it's probably quite hard to implement "drop-in" apps for django. But there's one point that catched my attention: lowering entry level for newcomers. It's not because Django wasn't build with "drop-in" features i

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Alec Taylor
Romain: My main argument is not for n00b developers, but just for any nut with a server... I want to be able to package my DJango project up into something as easily installable as a Drupal distribution. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Romain Dorgueil wrote: > Hi, > > it may be my first message

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Romain Dorgueil
Hi, it may be my first message on the list ever, but I wanted to put my 2 cents here. From the PHP world, Symfony2 introduced a "web installer" system in its "standard" distribution (which is the core + some fancyness). To me, it's useless unless you want to attract people from a larger au

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-12 Thread Tom Evans
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Looks useable. > > Anyone interested in working with me to port this to DJango? Alec, as other people have mentioned, Django is not Drupal. Drupal is a web application that can be customized using plugins, where as Django is a python library on

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-09 Thread Alec Taylor
Looks useable. Anyone interested in working with me to port this to DJango? (the reason I'm not doing it myself is that I am very new to Python and DJango) On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jens Diemer wrote: > Am 09.09.2011 08:23, schrieb Aymeric Augustin: >> >> Nothing prevents you from alterin

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-09 Thread Jens Diemer
Am 09.09.2011 08:23, schrieb Aymeric Augustin: Nothing prevents you from altering the settings file dynamically and telling the user to restart the webserver. You can run wih an in-memory SQLite database until this is done. So your question isn't related to the development of Django itself; it

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-08 Thread Aymeric Augustin
Hi Alec, Nothing prevents you from altering the settings file dynamically and telling the user to restart the webserver. You can run wih an in-memory SQLite database until this is done. So your question isn't related to the development of Django itself; it would be more appropriate on django-u

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-08 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:08 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > Uh.. what? Django != Drupal. > > Can you please explain a bit more about what you want the end result > to be. I do not think you have fully read the post - he wants users to be able to set up their django sites with

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-07 Thread Kayode Odeyemi
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > >> Good morning, >> >> I have been using Drupal for a while now, but am slowly moving toward >> DJango. >> >> I am currently

Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-07 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good morning, > > I have been using Drupal for a while now, but am slowly moving toward > DJango. > > I am currently working on quite an ambitious project, which I will be > releasing under a permissive license (New BSD or better). > > I would

PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

2011-09-07 Thread Alec Taylor
Good morning, I have been using Drupal for a while now, but am slowly moving toward DJango. I am currently working on quite an ambitious project, which I will be releasing under a permissive license (New BSD or better). I would like my project to be as accessible as possible. To this end, I woul