Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-30 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Mike Scott wrote: > The point here is that you were using a development source for your code. > Understandably people have started using this source more and more due to > the enhancements and features provided, and its general stability. But it > is stated everywhere that

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
When did I blame anyone? I didn't even update to QS-RF yet. I just thought it would be useful to put a big fat label on the website saying "hey trunk just got a massive face lift". On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Mike Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > The point here is that you were

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Mike Scott
David, The point here is that you were using a development source for your code. Understandably people have started using this source more and more due to the enhancements and features provided, and its general stability. But it is stated everywhere that the source is subject to change on a daily

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
I've been extremely busy over the last few weeks, and have rarely had the chance to check the mailing list. I specifically disable email updates from these because of all the mail I get each day. So sorry for not having time (but I'm really not sorry). On Apr 29, 5:50 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Apr-08, at 11:25 PM, David Cramer wrote: > WILL BREAK" (I didn't even know QSRF was released until someone > pointed it out to me) must have been about a million messages congratulating malcolm on the mailing list ... -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com

RE: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
lopers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: QSRF Related David Cramer wrote: > When an api is limited how would you propose to extend it? You do it the way > OO is built. > When releases happen you can expect things to break. When they don't how do > you expect to > know when you are s

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Larlet
Le 29 avr. 08 à 22:38, David Cramer a écrit : > > Yes im aware of the backwards incompatibility page but that mostly > covers the public api. A lot of time for our uses we have to go > beyond just using the public api. This is another situation where > having more releases could help :)

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Collin Grady
David Cramer said the following: > If I update from python 2.4 to 2.5 I can expect some trouble unless I know > what has changed. If I update trunk, which is what is considered the only > real version to use right now, I may encounter problems that I wasn't > expecting, especially since the

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
David Cramer wrote: > When an api is limited how would you propose to extend it? You do it the way > OO is built. > When releases happen you can expect things to break. When they don't how do > you expect to > know when you are safe to update? From this point of view it's never "safe" to

RE: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
-Original Message- From: James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:57 PM To: django-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: QSRF Related On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:54 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I update from python 2.4 to 2.5 I can expe

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:54 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I update from python 2.4 to 2.5 I can expect some trouble unless I know > what has changed. If I update trunk, which is what is considered the only > real version to use right now, I may encounter problems that I

RE: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
. -Original Message- From: James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:46 PM To: django-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: QSRF Related On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes im aware of the backwards incom

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes im aware of the backwards incompatibility page but that mostly covers > the public api. A lot of time for our uses we have to go beyond just using > the public api. This is another situation where having more

RE: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
AIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:25 PM To: django-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: QSRF Related On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) This is a pretty major change to Django, and there's nothing on the > > pag

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Marty Alchin
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) This is a pretty major change to Django, and there's nothing on the > > page that says "HEY WE JUST CHANGED THE ENTIRE DBAPI ALL YOUR HACKS > > WILL BREAK" (I didn't even know QSRF was released until someone >

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Waylan Limberg
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) This is a pretty major change to Django, and there's nothing on the > page that says "HEY WE JUST CHANGED THE ENTIRE DBAPI ALL YOUR HACKS > WILL BREAK" (I didn't even know QSRF was released until someone > pointed

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Empty
> 1) order_by() resets the ordering, but select_related() does not. > Would it not make more sense to keep APIs the same? So something like > order_by(False) and a similar option for select_related? David, I asked about order_by not working generitively here

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:55 PM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) I thought the very smple example explained it. Selecting on a > related field which already is present (so naming the select field > something that exists) would cause it to disappear, no errors, no > warnings.

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread David Cramer
2) I thought the very smple example explained it. Selecting on a related field which already is present (so naming the select field something that exists) would cause it to disappear, no errors, no warnings. 3) This is a pretty major change to Django, and there's nothing on the page that says

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) Is the issue still present if you do > extra(select={'myforeignkeyname': 1}) ? Is the issue still present where you didn't explain what you were asking about? > 3) Most importantly. Is there a shiny new page in

Re: QSRF Related

2008-04-29 Thread Collin Grady
David Cramer said the following: > 3) Most importantly. Is there a shiny new page in the documentation > that I don't see tagged somewhere that explains the new functionality? > If so, can we tag it as "Updated" or whatever is appropriate :) The doc pages were updated with qsrf, so when it