Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-16 Thread Kye Russell
Due to the cat-and-mouse nature inherent in this sort of request, and the community’s expectation of feature stability in Django, I feel that a third-party app is not the appropriate place for a feature like this. If the Django documentation doesn’t already do so, perhaps it could mention this

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-16 Thread אורי
Hi, On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:55 AM James Bennett wrote: > Since this discussion seems to be exclusively about how to use Django, > please take it to the django-users mailing list; the django-developers list > is not an appropriate place for this topic. > This is about my feature request "Preve

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-16 Thread Matemática A3K
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:54 AM James Bennett wrote: > Since this discussion seems to be exclusively about how to use Django, > please take it to the django-users mailing list; the django-developers list > is not an appropriate place for this topic. > I agree :) > -- > You received this messag

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread James Bennett
Since this discussion seems to be exclusively about how to use Django, please take it to the django-users mailing list; the django-developers list is not an appropriate place for this topic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contrib

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread Jure Erznožnik
We're using django-recaptcha (google recaptcha) and it requires a single checkbox click for most "ordinary" users. Some do have to go through a more complex image-identification process, but that one is a few seconds, not 30. Lp, Jure On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 14:29 אורי wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread Matemática A3K
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:25 AM Tom Forbes wrote: > IMO this is outside of the scope of this mailing list. There is no simple > answer to this problem, nor a general solution. There is however a wealth > of information on this topic that you can find with a few Google searches. > I agree > If

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread Tom Forbes
IMO this is outside of the scope of this mailing list. There is no simple answer to this problem, nor a general solution. There is however a wealth of information on this topic that you can find with a few Google searches. If there is something we can do to Django to make it easier to integrate

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread Jason Johns
We use Signal Sciences at work, integrated with nginx I'm looking for a solution which will be zero time wasting for human users, > not even clicking on the recaptcha's button, but on the other hand will > prevent bots from submitting the form > welcome to the

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread אורי
Hi, I'm looking for a solution which will be zero time wasting for human users, not even clicking on the recaptcha's button, but on the other hand will prevent bots from submitting the form. I'm not sure how this can be implemented technically. But right now the "no bots" field I added prevents al

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread '1337 Shadow Hacker' via Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)
We had the same problem and didn't want to use recaptcha because it's too hard for some users (ie. senior users). So, we used django-simple-captcha, but that didn't stop some of the bots. Our SecOps produced automated captcha parsing scripts so that we could fine-grain configuration, and found

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-14 Thread Adam Johnson
Preventing bot submissions is a bit of an arms race. Django could add some protection but if many Django sites use it then bot scripts might be adapted to workaround it. I've had success using django-recaptcha in the past: https://github.com/praekelt/django-recaptcha . django-honeypot looks good t

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-12 Thread אורי
Thank you. How do I use django-honeypot and how does it work? How does it affect our human users and how does it affect the bots? I didn't understand from their website. I added a new feature request https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/31085 אורי u...@speedy.net On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 5:50 AM

Re: Forms submitted by bots

2019-12-12 Thread Kye Russell
This is more of a support question, but: https://github.com/jamesturk/django-honeypot will thwart the majority of (naive) automation attempts. On 13 December 2019 at 10:42:54 am, אורי (u...@speedy.net) wrote: Django developers, After releasing Speedy Net to production I received lots of spam to