o.
Thanks!
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No.
I've just googled a bit for SPA, SPA+python. But I did not find
anything helpfull.
On 13 апр, 18:44, Massimiliano della Rovere
wrote:
> i think the python modules
> - smtplib
> - email
> will help. Have you already tried these ones?
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 14:
Hi.
Can anybody suggest an idea how to deal with SMTP server with Secure
Password Authentication in Django?
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If you are planning to deploy to linux servers, you might have a nicer
time developing on a linux vm. I have a mac, but do my development in
an ubuntu vm. Many difficult installations become a simple "sudo apt-
get install ".
YMMV,
Alex
On Apr 12, 2:09 am, Bdidi wrote:
> I reinsta
Not sure if this will help, but the docs have a pretty in-depth
explanation of doing csv export.
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/outputting-csv/
HTH,
Alex
On Mar 24, 3:03 pm, jlwlynn wrote:
> I'm trying to simply export CSV, but have failed miserably. First I
> perform a
I think Satchmo uses http://code.google.com/p/sorl-thumbnail/
I think it uses PIL underneath a layer of abstraction. That might work
for you if you are just wanting to generate alternate versions of
uploaded images.
Alex
On Mar 18, 12:10 am, robinne wrote:
> I can save an uploaded image t
Posting this question made me rethink the problem... And it was a very
small mistake: {% trans "..." %} is not able to mark multilined...
Just use one line and everything will work.
Hope this helps someone :-)
Alex
On 5 Mrz., 04:19, Alex wrote:
> I've got some very simply
at I did not miss something very obvious :-)
Thanks in advance
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them off to views, but you cannot reverse such patterns.
Hope that helps,
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On Mar 4, 2:13 am, codethief wrote:
> Hello dear Django community,
>
> I'm desperately trying to get the url template tag working. This is my
> template's source
> code:http://bitbucket.org/codeth
If you set limit_choices_to on the underlying foreign key, I think
that shows up in any modelform derived from it too.
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/fields/#django.db.models.ForeignKey.limit_choices_to
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Mar 1, 8:24 am, AlienBaby wrote:
> Hi.
>
&g
I think the problem is that you are using the old admin.site.root. You
should use the include(admin.site.urls) form instead.
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/admin/#hooking-adminsite-instances-into-your-urlconf
Hope that helps!
Alex
On Mar 2, 12:01 am, ssteinerX wrote:
> T
Oops, it would actually be
title={% filter force_escape %}"{{ villa.name }}"{% endfilter %}
Sorry.
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010
I think you can do that with title={% filter force_escape
%}"{{ villa.name }}"{% endfilter %}. Haven't tried it though.
Alex
On Feb 24, 8:36 am, Federico Capoano wrote:
> Hello to all,
>
> simple question:
>
> I have the following HTML in a template:
>
index.html', {
'extra_context_var': value,
})
Alex
[1]
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/generic-views/#django-views-generic-simple-direct-to-template
On Feb 24, 6:00 am, Jesaja Everling wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Is there any difference between these two ways of us
t how to combine some of those queries.
Also, you could try and bridge the relationships in the query instead
of doing it in python. I think this would give a list of all samurai
in a given province.
Samurai.objects.filter(room__province=current_province)
Sayonara,
Alex
On Feb 24, 2:08 am, Ti
hash combo. You could check the validity of the
user id from the hash (using a shared secret).
Alex
On Feb 17, 4:09 pm, geraldcor wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Internally, we have some RoR apps and Django apps. Our main website
> runs on Django and is considered to be the main portal for
/modwsgi/#howto-deployment-modwsgi
http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithDjango
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Feb 3, 5:30 am, Zygmunt wrote:
> Hi!
> When i create some changes in my page, i need restart apache server.
> How can i avoid restarting?
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Daishy,
I don't think you can do that with an include tag. You could do it by
defining a "base_with_menu.html" and having it extend "base.html" You
could make a menu block in base and override it in
base_with_menu.html.
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Feb 3, 3:28 am, Daishy
Daishy, it would help if you posted the template code you already
tried.
This is basically how you could do what you are describing:
base.html
{% block extrahead %}
{% endblock %}
sub_page.html
{% extends "base.html" %}
{% block extrahead %}
{{ block.super }}
siest.
3) Make the change using SQL against the database. (Using the
interactive tool that comes with most databases.)
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Feb 1, 1:54 pm, John Abraham wrote:
> I figured this out. I my __unicode__(self) still refered to the
> field! Doh!
>
> I changed it, reran
It sounds like the databrowse[1] contrib app may be what you are
looking for. It is basically a read-only admin. You'll have to
register classes with it the same way you register with the admin, but
it might be nicer than trying to force the admin to be read-only.
Hope that helps,
Alex
[1]
sses:
parent_disciplines = this_class.parent_discipline.all()
for disc in parent_disciplines:
disciplines.append(str(disc.name))
self.disciplines = ', '.join(set(disciplines))
super(Event, self).save(*args, **kwargs)
Hope that helps,
Alex
[1] http://docs.djangoproject.c
Hmm, you posted the save method for your Event model, but not the
definition. I think you haven't gotten any feed back because no one
really knows what you are asking. Could you show the Event model, and
then show what a finished save should look like? What should the data
end up like?
Ale
There is also an online version of one of the django books here:
http://djangobook.com/
On Jan 17, 5:08 pm, pfwd wrote:
> Thanks fantastic thank you
> I was also able to do:
> result = obj.task_set.aggregate(Count('id'))['id__count']
> to get the a count of the tasks for quote
>
> I don't suppose
Also, I think you'll need to make those relations to a class that
isn't abstract. Right now you have a 'class Meta: abstract=True' That
means your model doesn't really exist for the relations to link to.
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Jan 18, 2:26 am, Kerrick wrote:
> I&#x
I would use the create_user[1] function, then you can just enter the
password, instead of the hash value. Might make your code a little
more readable.
Alex
[1]http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/auth/#creating-users
On Jan 6, 3:19 pm, Phlip wrote:
> > Google cannot find any traf
n and replacing it with pass. Then try moving
the function higher in the class.
Hopefully you'll find the problem at one of those stages.
Alex
On Dec 22, 1:21 pm, neridaj wrote:
> I'm trying to add a get_absolute_url method to a Tweet model from
> django-syncr and do not understand
Mac OS X 10.5, Python 2.5.
Thank you,
Alex
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On Dec 22, 3:46 am, Amine wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm new in django and i'm searching a book :
> django 1.0 web site development PDF
>
> can u help me please !
> inhttp://my.softarchive.net/search/?q=django&x=0&y=0 I could not
> download it
Hi,
What would be the best way to convert NodeList created from template
back to a string?
I'm trying to implement a two-pass rendering.
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Does it work for one case at a time? Have you tried
q = request.GET.get('city')
properties = Property.objects.filter(city=q)
I would make sure it is working for each variable before combining
them together. (Maybe you already have, I don't know.)
Alex
On Dec 14, 5:32 pm, Osiaq
Hi,
I have a master template which defines two blocks:
{% block account %}{% endblock %}
{% block content %}{% endblock %}
I have a templatetag which tells me the time of the last image upload
(it's a photo sharing site).
This templatetag hits the database, and I don't want to call it
multiple t
Maybe you could just make another url that wasn't password protected.
If the token doesn't get used up in your plan, you have roughly the
same security (not much).
def rss_view(request):
askdmalkdmakds
protected_rss_view = login_required(rss_view)
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Dec
> Yeah, app integration right now seems very non-DRY and much too fiddly.
> Stands to reason
> that including an app implies you include the app's urls and templates - or
> why include it? I
> definitely cringe when copying an integrated app's templates into my
> project's template
> hierarchy
amework is built
with that mindset. It guides design decisions and allows us to move
beyond arguments over personal preference.
If you disagree with all (or most) of the Zen of Python, you are
welcome to stay, but unlikely to be happy.
If you start to complain about significant whitespace too, you a
Todd,
If you are just trying to define a restful interface to your objects,
you might look at django-piston[1]
If you really want the Rails approach, you are going to be pretty
frustrated working with Django. The python equivalent of "convention
over configuration" is "explicit is better than imp
odule(self.urlconf_name)
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/
python2.6/site-packages/django/utils/importlib.py", line 35, in
import_module
__import__(name)
ImportError: No module named urls
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, if there is a django method called `django.test.is_testing()
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Hi,
I know this is probably not 100% django related (well, actually is 0%)
but I think most of you have worked with virtualenv and PIP and this
looks like a good place to talk about deployment scenarios.
Basically, I'd like to handle dependencies of my virtual environment
with PIP, but I have some
probably
not worth it. Especially if you are only implementing the login and a
bulletin board. Getting the login/auth accounts to work on both PHP
and django will be far more work than implementing a bulletin board in
any sane web framework.
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Nov 20, 8:01 am, GreatEntrepreneur
Those sections won't show up for anyone who doesn't have edit
permissions. As long as you don't give the admin user superuser status
or permissions for those apps they won't show up.
On Nov 14, 6:34 pm, Zeynel wrote:
> Is it possible to remove "Auth" and "Sites" sections from the Admin
> panel?
alls as
an api and just making calls against it by the other half.
You aren't going to get good help unless you tell us what exactly you
are doing.
Hope that helps.
Alex
On Nov 13, 7:59 pm, Allen wrote:
> Hi, all:
>
> I've build a application with django, and my friends buil
That error happens if you refresh the page while it is still loading
from the dev server. You may have gotten impatient, refreshed and
caused that error. It is possible that this isn't really the problem
you are having, but just a secondary issue caused by the long load
time and a page refresh.
O
]http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/databrowse/
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Nov 10, 3:36 am, derek wrote:
> Yes, the fields should not be editable in a "view".
>
> However, I do not see it as "a problem" - more as "a desirable
> feature". There are any numbe
The warning on line 2 is because you are using python2.6, default in
Ubuntu9.04. You don't need to worry about it. It is just telling the
authors of mysqldb that ImmutableSet is going away in newer versions
of python. Not something you need to care about.
On Oct 29, 3:37 am, sridharpandu wrote:
Maybe it is just me, but I feel like writing out the view functions
like that is a beating. I just name[1] all the urls. Then the url tag
is easy. I just do things like {% url home-page %} or {% url blog-
index %}. If you set up a generic view in the views and name it, it
will work like normal.
[
This sounds related to this ticket http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/9308,
which supposedly fixed this issue 5 months ago. You should probably
file a bug report.
On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, Peter Sagerson wrote:
> Yes, Django always cascades deletes. There's talk about providing more
> options in a
If you use the net tab of firebug[1] you can tell when url/file paths
are messed up. That is the only way I ever get tinymce running.
[1]http://getfirebug.com/
On Sep 27, 7:29 am, Erik Kronberg wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at
Good job! Didn't have much time to check the content but the first 4
or 5 videos seemed very interesting.
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that has the redirect
logic you are after.
[1]
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/auth/#the-login-required-decorator
[2]
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/auth/#django.contrib.auth.views.login
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Very nice. I just found out you can assign a keyword to search engines
in the manage search engines menu. Now I just type "django search
term" in the location bar and I get what I need. Don't have to change
the search engine back and forth.
Thanks for the awesome plugin.
On Sep 24, 4:01 am, 玉东
imply make one
of the ajax responses be {"redirect_to": "http://www.example.com/"}
and parse it out on the client side.
Hope that helps,
Alex
On Sep 15, 2:07 am, Margie Roginski wrote:
> I have a situation where the user fills in a form and hits submit to
> post the for
http://www.satchmoproject.com/
good luck
On Sep 10, 9:07 pm, aftalavera wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Where can I found sample about real apps usgin html templates with
> Django templates?
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You might look at http://sandbox.pocoo.org/clevercss/, which is python
based.
On Sep 8, 9:19 am, ThinRhino wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just came across haml and sass, but looks like it is built for Ruby on
> Rails.
>
> Any implementation that can work on Django?
>
> Though I also came acrosshttp://bit
call .iterator() on the QuerySet and it will hvae it's cache disabled.
Alex
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class Dek(models.Model):
> ank = models.ManyToManyField(Ank)
>
> How come I got "NameError: name 'Dek' is not defined" when running
> runserver
>
>
>
> >
>
Take a look at:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/fields/#lazy-relationships
Alex
tally
going to http://mysite/credit_card_form/ will be redirected to https://
I'm guessing that overriding the wsgi.url_scheme is meant to handle
that, but I don't understand how.
Thanks,
Alex
On Aug 31, 6:02 pm, Graham Dumpleton
wrote:
> On Sep 1, 3:39 am, Francis wrote:
>
I guess the question is when you know the additional keyword argument.
If you already know what that extra keyword is when you are
constructing the form list, you could use a partial[1] to put in the
arguments you know already. Partials are python 2.5+ only, you can use
a lambda instead if you are
First, if you aren't running into db performance problems, I wouldn't
optimize. Keep everything as simple as possible, then optimize the
parts that actually demonstrate themselves to be a performance issue.
If this really is a performance issue, you could solve it like this:
If you know that you
;field2')
>
> For some reason, I can't get field2 removed from the subclassed form.
> If I subclass AnotherForm from ModelForm, field2 will be removed, but
> then I lose all my customizations from MyForm...
> >
>
The answer is you don't. You change the inheritanc
> do this with the Django ORM.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts on this,
>
> Stephen
> >
>
LinkBack.objects.values_list('target_url', flat=True).distinct()
should do what you want.
Alex
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gt; (r'^admin/', include(admin.site.urls)),
> (r'^articles/', include('oslaurier.articles.urls')),
> )
>
> --
>
> I noticed that for some reaso
Also, maybe you aren't submitting all the code, but you could do the
same thing by just passing an attrs dictionary to the text area
widget.
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/forms/widgets/#django.forms.Widget.attrs
Not sure that this requires two more classes.
Hope that helps,
> return super(HtmlField, self).formfield(**kwargs)
>
> def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
> super(HtmlField, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
>
>
> >
>
The biggest thing is there is no need to rewrite the __init__ method
if you aren't chang
You'll probably want to look into something like this:
http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/880/
It allows you to set some urls to redirect so they are always https.
Otherwise those silly users will go to credit card pages without
https.
On Aug 29, 1:04 am, Vitaly Babiy wrote:
> Hey guys,
> W
You'll have to set something in a table and run a cron to send it
later. Django-mailer [1] has all of this set up for, along with some
other cool features. I've used it in a project before and been happy
with it.
[1] http://code.google.com/p/django-mailer/
On Aug 28, 1:10 am, Shadow wrote:
> Hi
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Sam Tregar wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote:
>>
>> Instead of iterating over the QuerySet itself, use
>> QuerySet.iterator(), this will avoid populating the result cache.
>
> Thanks, works great! This would
cache which is holding all the rows
> retrieved by the query. Is there any way to turn this cache off? Looking
> at the code leads me to think no, but I thought I'd ask.
>
> -sam
>
>
> >
>
Instead of iterating over the QuerySet itself, use
QuerySet.iterator(), this
#x27;]
>
>
>>
>> But both functions returns (None). Why I can do it?
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>
You can't have methods with the same names as fields on your models,
since this would mean an object having two attributes by the same
name.
Alex
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Hi,
I have many applications in my project. I've carefully translated them
launching manage.py makemessages from within each application
directory, so that each app has its own locale/ directory with
translations.
When it comes to translating project-level strings, and I launch
makemessages from
t;
>
> Cheers
>
> tom
>
> >
>
Take a look at formsets:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/formsets/
Alex
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your tests in a tests.py file, however you still need to
have an empty models.py file, so Django picks up the app correctly.
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"The peo
rt Image
> image = Image.open(img)
> if image.size[0] > 64: #image.size is a 2-tuple (width, height)
> ...
> Or you could resize it down to 64 px if it is bigger.
> TiNo
> >
>
If you call django.core.files.images. get_image_dimensions on the file
you'll get back a width, height dim
types.models import ContentType
ct = ContentType.objects.get_for_id(content_type_id)
obj = ct.model_class()._default_manager.get(pk=obj_id)
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imagine Django is running INSERT and COMMIT each time?).
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> >
>
Django doesn't currently support any form of bulk insert. Using raw
SQL is your best option at this point.
Alex
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>> DR.
> >
>
On a validated form the values will be in the dictionary form.cleaned_data
Alex
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ingle object, I could spare a little
> bit of code, if I just write:
>>>> "User.objects.get(username='Leon').avatar"
> instead of
>>>> "u = User.objects.get(username='Leon')"
>>>> "UserProfileExtension.objects.get(user=
\django\utils\__init__.py", line 1
> Django-1.1/of the Lawrence Journal-World newspaper in Lawrence,
> Kansas.
> ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> Any ideas?
>
> >
>
Your download got messed up somehow, that content does'nt exi
r way to register all class by single register call like
> this
> admin.site.register(Poll,Choice,Vote)
>
> with thanks
> Ajay
> >
>
Yep,
admin.site.register([Model1, Moel2, Model3])
Alex
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rkaround I can do to make it work?
> >
>
MySQL works fine for me under Python 2.6, you get a warning when you
import it, but that doesn't prevent normal execution, it's just
annoying ;)
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oes not contain new tag
>>>> queryset
> [, ]
>
> # hmm, maybe not??
>
> Any help on clarifying this would be greatly appreciated!
>
> David
>
> >
>
The issue here is how __repr__ works on QuerySets, specifically it
does repr(list(self[:MAX_REPR_SIZE]
>
> >
>
If you're using django 1.1 you can use the new F() objects so it'd look like:
thread.forums.allparents.update(postcount = F('postcount')+1, lastpost=post)
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ew attempts but the
> results were as above).
> >
>
Your best bet would be to take the items you want. And do
items = list(items)
items.reverse()
to put them in the correct order in Python, this is going to be easier
than mucking around with custom SQL.
Alex
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u're getting exactly what you've asked for. Your query contains
>> filter(l=2) - that is, you're filtering on l, the SUM.
>>
>> > How can I force using having when I can't define the param in
>> > annotate?
>>
>> I'm afraid I don&#x
t; >
>
You are talking about in the forms/admin validation correct? Thinking
to how this is implemented there likely is a bug where this doesn't
use the SQL concept of NULL != NULL and uses the Python None == None
instead, which of these behaviors is correct I'm not sure of (though I
lean t
lot more
>> efficient and robust. Dumpdata is great for the sweet spot, but it isn't
>> designed to completely replace all existing database tools.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Malcolm
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>
Unless the majority of
7;: 1249911607L}, {'time': 1249911607L}, {'time':
> 1249911607L}, ...]
>>>
>
> The same thing happens in the Admin when I specify date_hierarchy in
> my ModelAdmin a one of these fields. Why are the standard accessor
> methods (namely 'to_python()')
> search_fields = ['name']
>
> admin.site.register(University)
>
> >
>
Your problem is you registered your Model with the admin without
telling it about your custom ModelAdmin class, so it used the default
one. The last line should be.
admin.site.regist
eprecation warning, however it will continue to work perfectly fine.
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don't provide a way to work
with dates that easily, however I think this task might be
accomplishable with a custom Aggregate object, search the mailng list
for more information on creating these.
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hen I
>> > moved to a different db?
>>
>> Actually, my SQLite observation was entirely bogus. I suspect what
>> you're seeing is the difference between these two lines:
>>
>> t1 = Task.objects.create(status=u'3')
>> t2 = Task
Hi, Rebecca!
Try to use request's `get_full_path` [1] method. It's environment
independent and produces full path string with query.
[1]:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/request-response/#django.http.HttpRequest.get_full_path
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Alex Koshelev
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:37 A
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> Thanks
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You can call the hexdigest() method on the md5 object to get a string
of the hash.
Alex
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s or with sqlite) I get this
>> assertion error:
>>
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> ...
>> AssertionError: 3
>>
>> If someone more clued up than me could take a look at this and confirm
>> that it is a Django bug I can start looking int
:project, 'form':form,
> 'newurl':newurl}
> )
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> return response
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> {% extends 'base.html' %}
> {% load i18n %}
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> {% block content %}
>
> {% trans "Browse Measurands" %} ({% trans &qu
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> urlparse.urlsplit(request.META['HTTP_HOST'])[2].split('.')
> request.subdomain = bits[0]
> else:
> raise Http404
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> Mirat Can Bayrak
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>
Right now there is a bug in django's middleware where it doesn&
Hi, Vasil!
`Field.unique` is the read only property. If you want to set uniqueness you
have to assign field's `_unique` attribute to True.
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Alex Koshelev
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Vasil Vangelovski
wrote:
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> Having this line of code:
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> User._meta.get_field(&#
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> I'd like to store all the ordering info in one intermediate table
> while maintaining different tables for the porducts
>
> Lee
> >
>
Bah, this is what I get for reading too quickly. The answer is maybe,
you'd have to try it. I see no obvious reason it wouldn&
works great if I just want to change the filename but I can't
> change folder.
>
> So what am I doing wrong?
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> Stefan
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You needed to do self.the_file. In python member variables aren't
automatically accessible, you have to get them
mpression that the output from obkects.all() was
> iterable?
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> I would appreciate any help anyone can give.
>
> Thanks
>
> >
>
It is, you've done something, either in your template or in your
models that's somehow causing the issue. If you could show us those
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