Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-10-30 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:54 PM, bobhaugen wrote: > On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:26:01 PM UTC-5, Chris Hawkes wrote: >> >> All this being said, there is definitely a trend towards SPA's. >> > > Does anybody else besides me hate the SPA trend? I much prefer apps that > are separated into logi

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-10-30 Thread bobhaugen
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:26:01 PM UTC-5, Chris Hawkes wrote: > > All this being said, there is definitely a trend towards SPA's. > > Does anybody else besides me hate the SPA trend? I much prefer apps that are separated into logical components where each component has its own URL, rat

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-10-29 Thread Javier Guerra Giraldez
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Glen Jungels wrote: > the javascript frameworks (Node, Angular, etc) differ in that the execution > is done client side Node.js is a server framework. -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-10-29 Thread Glen Jungels
I have to agree that debugging javascript does stink. However, the javascript frameworks (Node, Angular, etc) differ in that the execution is done client side whereas for Django, any PHP framework and Microsoft ASP/C#, the execution is backend on the web server. Depending on the circumstance, the

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-10-29 Thread Chris Hawkes
As a business owner and full time Developer using C# and Visual Studio I do all of my website building at home in Django. It's an amazing framework that is far above anything else I've tried which includes, ASP, Node.js, CodeIgniter, Yii and any other Python frameworks out there. (I'll admit

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-29 Thread Toran Billups
I just shipped my first commercial web application and found that writing the backend with django was still a big win because the platform is so stable and feature rich. Authentication out of the box REST api with django rest framework ORM / migrations / etc with core django and south mod WSGI +

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-29 Thread bobhaugen
I think I agree with James (below). I'm about to graft a javascript MVC library or framework on top of a Django server, to make up for some problems with Django templates and forms. Haven't done it yet, but need to do something different. So I may come back here and repent...;) I have worked on

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
+1 well said. Cal On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:59 PM, James Turley < jamesturley1...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure I buy this stuff about JS taking over everything. The reason > is that client and server are different domains, and we might reasonably > expect - even in a pure JS-only shop

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread James Turley
I'm not sure I buy this stuff about JS taking over everything. The reason is that client and server are different domains, and we might reasonably expect - even in a pure JS-only shop - people to specialise anyway. Apart from the tiniest start-ups, there isn't really an evolutionary advantage to ha

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread James
This is something I've been thinking about myself lately. I'm working on a side project right now that is extremely JS heavy on the client side. I eventually found myself saying screw it, and am now in the process of rewriting the client side using backbone. Django is more or less becoming a re

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
It makes for an interesting debate and food for thought. Python has a lot of libraries and user contributions which can speed up development, but like every language, has it's good sides and bad sides. Django holds a strong position, libraries such as south, pipeline, mongoengine, uWSGI and the D

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread graeme
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:00:31 PM UTC+5:30, Avraham Serour wrote: > > you will eventually need to keep a couple of different codebases in some > different languges. > Say you get popular enough and now you need to launch a desktop app, > android and iphone. > Take dropbox for example, they

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-28 Thread Mike Dewhirst
On Monday, January 27, 2014 5:44:12 PM UTC-5, damond...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to know if this community is somewhat worried about the future relevance of Django (and other purely server-side MV* Python web app frameworks such as web2py for that matter) given the curr

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-27 Thread Chris Hinds
Coffeescript.org makes some of those things better, but it's no Python. C. > On 27 Jan 2014, at 23:57, "Tim Chase" wrote: > >> On 2014-01-27 14:44, damondevi...@gmail.com wrote: >> Why then adopt Django (or web2py) for a new project today, instead >> of going pure JS? >> >> I am a big Python

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-27 Thread Avraham Serour
you will eventually need to keep a couple of different codebases in some different languges. Say you get popular enough and now you need to launch a desktop app, android and iphone. Take dropbox for example, they have a web version, desktop, android and iphone (did I miss any platform?) For desktop

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-27 Thread Brad Moore
The tech giants are pushing JavaScript more than Python these days. JavaScript is said to be the future language for enterprise applications. I think Python will be around but will play a third place role behind JavaScript and PHP. Yes, I said PHP and I apologize but its true just look at the

Re: Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2014-01-27 14:44, damondevi...@gmail.com wrote: > Why then adopt Django (or web2py) for a new project today, instead > of going pure JS? > > I am a big Python fan in terms of design and principles, If you like JS as a language, then it makes sense to do everything in JS. However, I prefer Pyt

Do you think Django's future is threatened by JS frameworks in both client & server?

2014-01-27 Thread damondeville
Hi, I would like to know if this community is somewhat worried about the future relevance of Django (and other purely server-side MV* Python web app frameworks such as web2py for that matter) given the current momentum of JavaScript (JS) everywhere? There are many competing architecture patter