Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-06 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On 6 août, 22:53, paulo couto wrote: > Thank you all for your advices. > I started with the beginners guide from the python official site because i > think i should learn at least the basics of python before move into django. Yeps, right. Better to start with the core

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-06 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On 5 août, 20:30, Doug Ballance wrote: > Your time spent learning python and django > will not be wasted if you also choose to learn/use php.  I think it's > much easier to learn good methodology and practices with python, and > then carry those practices over to php than than

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-06 Thread paulo couto
Thank you all for your advices. I started with the beginners guide from the python official site because i think i should learn at least the basics of python before move into django. What you advice after i complete the beginners guide?Should i pick one of my designs and try to "pythonize" it?

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-05 Thread Doug Ballance
I don't think it's necessarily a choice between learning php or learning python. Most programming languages are fairly similar in concept, and once you've mastered one it's reasonably easy to pick up a new one. Python is a great language, but I think it's especially great as a first language.

RE: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-05 Thread Sells, Fred
I think many of the members of this group have a pro-python bias for a good reason. Most of us have had to work with many other frameworks and languages and Python is the only one I would use to "unwind". Sometimes it's worth "paying your dues" -- You received this message because you are

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-05 Thread bax...@gretschpages.com
I came into Django as a designer. It can be done, just take baby steps. The more python you learn, the happier you'll be, and the more productive. But in the mean time, you can do a lot with generic views and reusable apps that would keep you from having to write much code at all. I would suggest

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-05 Thread Peter Murphy
If you are thinking about diving into PHP, I suggest you read this first: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/02/17/PHP It's five years old, but it contains a lot of links to pro- and anti- PHP rants, which you should consider. (Consider also that there's no good Unicode support inside

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-04 Thread Andre Terra
I personally learned python without any previous programming knowledge. TBH, I used to write scripts for mIRC, so I knew *some* very basic things, but be certain I had to rewire my entire brain to think like a real programmer. I'm now on my third django project and while my developing speed has

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-04 Thread paulo couto
Well I am trying to avoid PHP at all costs. Maybe im thinking it the wrong way, but after tweaking a wordpress theme, PHP seems very "ugly" and "unreadable" to me. I also developed some kind of mental block about PHP and I know for sure that if I have to learn it I will hate every second of

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-04 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 11:45 +0100, Cal Leeming wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes > wrote: > If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider > CodeIgniter. It is > the easier Framework for a starter. > > > I personally came

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-04 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes wrote: > If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is > the easier Framework for a starter. > OP: I personally came from CodeIgniter. Trust me, it is a *terrible* framework (in comparison to

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-04 Thread Cal Leeming
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes wrote: > If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is > the easier Framework for a starter. > I personally came from CodeIgniter. Trust me, it is a *terrible* framework (in comparison to lightweight

RE: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-03 Thread Sells, Fred
- From: django-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:django-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of biofob...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:58 PM To: Django users Subject: Re: Django for a front end designer Thank you all for the advices/sugestions. For what i read most of you advice on PHP

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-03 Thread 枯藤天涯
django is best for you,.beacuse it is writed by Python.and python is a clear language. 2011/8/3 Bruce Dou > Or you can try Rails. > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andre Lopes wrote: > >> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-03 Thread Bruce Dou
Or you can try Rails. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andre Lopes wrote: > If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is > the easier Framework for a starter. > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, paulo couto wrote: > > Ok

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-03 Thread Andre Lopes
If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is the easier Framework for a starter. On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, paulo couto wrote: > Ok thanks for the clarifications : > I guess i'll go to PHP for now and when i have more prog. experience i'll >

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-03 Thread Malcolm Box
On 2 August 2011 18:49, bruno desthuilliers wrote: > > As far as I'm concerned, OSX is a pain (as a programming platform) > whaver language / techno you want to use. > > Don't be put off by this - it's certainly not my (nor many, many other people's) experience of

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread paulo couto
Ok thanks for the clarifications : I guess i'll go to PHP for now and when i have more prog. experience i'll try python and django to be able to build my own stuff from scratch. Now i only need to find where to start in PHP :) Thanks all for your time. 2011/8/2 webcomm > On

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread webcomm
On Aug 2, 4:57 pm, "biofob...@gmail.com" wrote: > Thank you all for the advices/sugestions. > For what i read most of you advice on PHP + framework and i can > understand that. I looked at django and rails as a option for me to > have. My PHP knowledge is very limited, and

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread biofob...@gmail.com
Thank you all for the advices/sugestions. For what i read most of you advice on PHP + framework and i can understand that. I looked at django and rails as a option for me to have. My PHP knowledge is very limited, and sometimes i need some functionality on a wordpress site or on a textpattern one

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On 2 août, 18:21, "biofob...@gmail.com" wrote: > I am a designer guy not a programmer. My coding skills are html, css > and some jquery tweaks to suit my needs, but i come to a point where i > think i need to learn a real language. What i'm doing now is working > with

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread webcomm
Hi there, For building dynamic websites, I'd say you should learn a language like PHP or Python. Yep. For working with Django you definitely need to know Python. Something like WordPress has a very different and narrower set of intentions behind its design than does Django. WordPress is

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > Difficult to say really. > > If your main focus is to be a designer, and not to be a full on programmer, > then I'd say you are probably best sticking with wordpress. > > If you

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Difficult to say really. If your main focus is to be a designer, and not to be a full on programmer, then I'd say you are probably best sticking with wordpress. If you don't really have a main focus, or you have some spare time, then defo take some time to learn python+django. I would strongly

Re: Django for a front end designer

2011-08-02 Thread Shawn Milochik
Go for it. It will require you to learn to program, but if you're up for it then that's awesome. If you do the tutorial and read the following wiki page I'm sure you'll find plenty of helpful people on this list. https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingTheMailingList Shawn -- You received