Re: [dmarc-ietf] ATPS, TPA-Label, etc.

2014-07-20 Thread Douglas Otis
Dear Murray, Thank you for responding. See comments inline: On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > [Changing Subject: to a new thread and dropping i...@ietf.org, since this is > not charter discussion] > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Douglas Otis wrote: > ATPS is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] WG Review: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc)

2014-07-20 Thread Hector Santos
I would like to see a better integrated, cross-area engineering effort. There is much to do in the integrated area of new domain authorization "permission-based" policy concepts. We have a tendency of repeating the similar concepts across proposed multiple protocols. In an evolved, modern S

[dmarc-ietf] ATPS, TPA-Label, etc.

2014-07-20 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
[Changing Subject: to a new thread and dropping i...@ietf.org, since this is not charter discussion] On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Douglas Otis wrote: > ATPS is not the "lite version" of TPA-Label. This is explained in > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-otis-tpa-label-04.html#rfc.appendix.C >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] WG Review: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc)

2014-07-20 Thread Eric Burger
I will not comment on the 85 messages in the thread. However, I would like to point out that STIR is working on a similar problem with similar goals but in a more constrained environment. I would offer coordination between WG’s, should DMARC be chartered, would be “a good thing.” On Jul 14, 2

Re: [dmarc-ietf] WG Review: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc)

2014-07-20 Thread Hector Santos
On 7/20/2014 12:27 AM, Douglas Otis wrote:> This is missing two citations that I thought were supposed to be included, since they touch on indirect email flows: Delegating DKIM Signing Authority - draft-kucherawy-dkim-delegate-00 DKIM Third-Party Authorization Label - draft-otis-dkim-tpa-