[dmarc-ietf] Missing report elements and dmarc.org information based on deprecated drafs

2019-08-07 Thread Freddie Leeman
I've been digging through the DMARC pre-IETF drafts and IETF drafts and came to the following conclusion: The following report elements were added to (pre IETF) draft-dmarc-base-00-03 (January 2013) [1]: * IdentifierType 'envelope_from' * SPFAuthResultType 'scope' * DKIMAuthResultType 'selector'

Re: [dmarc-ietf] New proposed wording for p=quarantiine

2019-08-07 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:02 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > Policy is an indication of sender preference, not a directive the receiver > must follow. I think the definition is fine. If the sender prefers > failing messages be quarantined, then they should use that policy. They > won't get what th

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Do is need a new ptype? Was Re: New authentication method, DNSWL

2019-08-07 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:28 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > IOW, dnswl=pass means the sender was whitelisted. > If that's the case, why do downstream agents need "policy.ip" at all? -MSK ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Do is need a new ptype? Was Re: New authentication method, DNSWL

2019-08-07 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:40 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > That's much better. If the definition of ptype smtp were "a parameter of > the > SMTP session used to relay the message" it would be perfect. I'd propose > that > policy.iprev be deprecated and smtp.remote-ip used instead. > Given that

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Aggregate reporting options tag name 'ao'

2019-08-07 Thread Freddie Leeman
I agree that messages with both DKIM and SPF pass results can be useful when it comes to validating that everything is (still) in working order. But I come across domains with very high email volumes. So daily reports contain thousands of records that are consuming bandwidth, storage and process

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Missing report elements and dmarc.org information based on deprecated drafs

2019-08-07 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:46 AM Freddie Leeman wrote: > I've been digging through the DMARC pre-IETF drafts and IETF drafts and > came to the following conclusion: > Seems to me the working group has a choice to make here, somewhere between "reinforce the XML specification as published" and "take

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-ietf-dmarc-psd review

2019-08-07 Thread Seth Blank
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:31 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > Is silence concurrence? Comments inline. Please let me know how to > proceed > on updating the draft. I'd appreciate anyone else's feedback too. > Addressing only this point, yes, I concur with all of Murray's comments and requests. ___