Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields D

2020-06-03 Thread Hector Santos
On 6/2/2020 8:45 PM, Douglas E. Foster wrote: Someone said that the Sender Address is all we can trust. Nonsense. +1 As to identifiers: The RFC 5321 MAILFROM sender is intended, at least in my understanding, to represent the login account used to create the message, while the RFC 5322 From H

[dmarc-ietf] Requirements for a DKIM Signing Practices Protocol

2020-06-03 Thread Hector Santos
I have to ask these engineering questions because we spent a lot of time developing this functional specifications. How much does DMARC follow the DKIM Signing Policy functional specs? Requirements for a DKIM Signing Practices Protocol https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5016 In addition, is DMARC

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 03/Jun/2020 19:27:52 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > On 6/3/2020 10:20 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> On Wed 03/Jun/2020 18:43:16 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: >>> On 6/3/2020 9:38 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: MUAs should be discouraged from displaying or using Author:, unless (verifiably

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-03 Thread Dave Crocker
On 6/3/2020 10:20 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Wed 03/Jun/2020 18:43:16 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: On 6/3/2020 9:38 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: MUAs should be discouraged from displaying or using Author:, unless (verifiably) signed by a trusted domain or otherwise configured by the user. Wh

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 03/Jun/2020 18:43:16 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > On 6/3/2020 9:38 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> MUAs should be discouraged from displaying or using Author:, unless >> (verifiably) signed by a trusted domain or otherwise configured by the user. > > Why? That avoids the dreaded back-to-sq

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-03 Thread Dave Crocker
On 6/3/2020 9:38 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: MUAs should be discouraged from displaying or using Author:, unless (verifiably) signed by a trusted domain or otherwise configured by the user. Why? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

2020-06-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 02/Jun/2020 19:00:55 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > On 6/2/2020 9:44 AM, Jesse Thompson wrote: >> I'm relaying these DMARC questions/concerns on behalf of an email admin at >> another university.  [...] >> >> " >> I don't see on the list of issues the most fundamental problem of DMARC, >> namel