Re: [dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On June 22, 2022 2:54:28 AM UTC, John Levine wrote: >It appears that Scott Kitterman said: >>Not confusing is indeed the tricky part. I think what's wanted is shortest >>that's longer than the longest PSD. > >How about this? > >b.a psd=y >c.b.a NXDOMAIN >d.c.b.a blah > >What's the org domai

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread John Levine
It appears that Scott Kitterman said: >Not confusing is indeed the tricky part. I think what's wanted is shortest >that's longer than the longest PSD. How about this? b.a psd=y c.b.a NXDOMAIN d.c.b.a blah What's the org domain for e.d.c.b.a? I think it's c.b.a. Is the policy domain is d.

[dmarc-ietf] rua XML update needed for treewalk

2022-06-21 Thread Tomki Camp
I haven't seen discussion about this, here. Apologies if I missed it somewhere. If DMARC evaluation at receivers is updated to allow determination of alignment via tree walk, the XML reporting data sent using that scheme needs to reflect this. Even if a consensus is reached wherein PSL use is dep

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On June 22, 2022 2:11:56 AM UTC, John Levine wrote: >It appears that Scott Kitterman said: >>As written, I think it produces the correct result. > >I now think it's close but not quite. > >>As written you take the domain with a (non-PSD) DMARC record with the fewest >>labels, > >How abo

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread John Levine
It appears that Scott Kitterman said: >As written, I think it produces the correct result. I now think it's close but not quite. >As written you take the domain with a (non-PSD) DMARC record with the fewest >labels, How about this? a NXDOMAIN (or psd=y, doesn't matter) b.a blah c.b.a ps

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:42:01 PM EDT John R Levine wrote: > I've been staring at the tree walk description and see a few places where > it could be clearer, and one place where I think it's wrong, left over > text from the old downward walk. > > If this discussion isn't clear enough I can do a

[dmarc-ietf] Tree walk nits

2022-06-21 Thread John R Levine
I've been staring at the tree walk description and see a few places where it could be clearer, and one place where I think it's wrong, left over text from the old downward walk. If this discussion isn't clear enough I can do a pull request with the proposed changes. In the description of the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-08.txt

2022-06-21 Thread Todd Herr
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 1:08 PM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Todd Herr said: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >The main differences between this rev and rev-07 are the ABNF updates and > >the addition of a discussion in section 9.7 on the topic of "Determination > >of the Organizational Domain for

[dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-09.txt

2022-06-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance WG of the IETF. Title : Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC)

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-08.txt

2022-06-21 Thread John Levine
It appears that Todd Herr said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >The main differences between this rev and rev-07 are the ABNF updates and >the addition of a discussion in section 9.7 on the topic of "Determination >of the Organizational Domain for Relaxed Alignment". I found a few mistakes in the ABNF, all my f

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-08.txt

2022-06-21 Thread Todd Herr
The main differences between this rev and rev-07 are the ABNF updates and the addition of a discussion in section 9.7 on the topic of "Determination of the Organizational Domain for Relaxed Alignment". The next rev, which I hope to publish in the next couple weeks, will include a discussion of the

[dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-08.txt

2022-06-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance WG of the IETF. Title : Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC)

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Are Evaluators motivated to switch to Tree Walk?

2022-06-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 7:02:12 AM EDT Douglas Foster wrote: > Before we move to coding the similarities, differences, and risks into the > document, it would be useful just to generate a complete list within this > WG. > > It would certainly be a breach of trust to omit information from the > d

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Are Evaluators motivated to switch to Tree Walk?

2022-06-21 Thread Douglas Foster
Before we move to coding the similarities, differences, and risks into the document, it would be useful just to generate a complete list within this WG. It would certainly be a breach of trust to omit information from the document, if done for the purpose of hiding tree walk limitations. Doug On