Re: [dmarc-ietf] [arc-discuss] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone)

2016-05-15 Thread Roland Turner
(Sorry Murray, I missed the tail of your message.) On 05/13/2016 05:24 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Yes, AS[1] testifies to the Authenticated-Results of receiving the message > from the originator. That only proves the first receiver was involved. A final

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [arc-discuss] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone)

2016-05-12 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Roland Turner wrote: > > I'd suggest not. AS[1] permits a receiver (or other assessor) to determine > with some confidence that the putative signer made such an assertion about > the putative originator, it provides no information about the involvement > of the pu

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [arc-discuss] Proposal to adopt ARC documents into the WG (toward phase 2 milestone)

2016-05-11 Thread Roland Turner
On 05/12/2016 06:28 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy via arc-discuss wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Alessandro Vesely > wrote: >> Doesn't the i=1 ARC set also prove the originator was involved? No, it doesn't. Could you say why not? It seems to me the i=1 ARC