Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Franck Martin wrote: - Original Message - From: "Scott Kitterman" To: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:18:33 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose On Saturday, April 12, 2014 15:24:48 Franck Martin wrote: Printed on recycled paper! On Apr

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - > From: "Scott Kitterman" > To: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:18:33 PM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose > > On Saturday, April 12, 2014 15:24:48 Franck Martin wrote: > > Printed on recycle

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 23:25:15 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 05:18:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > When I look at the feedback I get on my DMARC reports about 90% of the > > mail I send fails DMARC despite good SPF and DKIM deployments due to > > mailing lists, bug track

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 05:18:33PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > When I look at the feedback I get on my DMARC reports about 90% of the mail I > send fails DMARC despite good SPF and DKIM deployments due to mailing lists, > bug trackers, web site sharing, etc. For me and many others this is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 15:24:48 Franck Martin wrote: > Printed on recycled paper! > > > On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:25, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > >> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 18:30:39 Franck Martin wrote: > >> Printed on recycled paper! > >> > >>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59, "SM" wrote: > >>>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 03:24:48PM -0500, Franck Martin wrote: > Feel free to propose a better solution.. Quickly.. It's actually not that hard. The technology already exists for over 20 years and is widely deployed already. Kurt ___ dmarc mailing l

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 03:57:51PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: SM wrote: Hi Franck, At 11:30 12-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/security-intelligence/white-papers/wp-spear-phishing-email-most-favored-apt-attack-bait.pdf The ab

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Franck Martin
Printed on recycled paper! > On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:25, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > >> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 18:30:39 Franck Martin wrote: >> Printed on recycled paper! >> >>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59, "SM" wrote: >>> >>> Hi Franck, >>> >>> At 13:35 10-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: >>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 03:57:51PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > SM wrote: > >Hi Franck, > >At 11:30 12-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: > >>http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/security-intelligence/white-papers/wp-spear-phishing-email-most-favored-apt-attack-bait.pdf > >> > > > >The abov

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
SM wrote: Hi Franck, At 11:30 12-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/security-intelligence/white-papers/wp-spear-phishing-email-most-favored-apt-attack-bait.pdf The above points me to an article from trendmicro.com. I was interested in reading your

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 18:30:39 Franck Martin wrote: > Printed on recycled paper! > > > On Apr 12, 2014, at 3:59, "SM" wrote: > > > > Hi Franck, > > > > At 13:35 10-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: > >> Some random thoughts > > > > [snip] > > > >> -IETF recent focus is on pervasive moni

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread SM
Hi Franck, At 11:30 12-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/security-intelligence/white-papers/wp-spear-phishing-email-most-favored-apt-attack-bait.pdf The above points me to an article from trendmicro.com. I was interested in reading your opinion.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-12 Thread SM
Hi Franck, At 13:35 10-04-2014, Franck Martin wrote: Some random thoughts [snip] -IETF recent focus is on pervasive monitoring, increasing security, prevent identity theft,... DMARC is a tool that helps, it is aligned with IETF recent goals. It is deployed, widely used, proven beneficia

[dmarc-ietf] Fwd: DMARC's purpose

2014-04-10 Thread Franck Martin
Some random thoughts -Yahoo policy change did not break all mailing lists, for instance most lists at apache.org are fine. Creating hyperbole drama does not offer tools to solve problems. -I remember a time, when adding a tag in the subject line was frown upon at IETF... even sending emai