Re: [DMM] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Tom Herbert
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Jon Crowcroft wrote: > what we need is compact onion routing - maybe we could call it garlic routing. > > in all seriousness, if people are worried about privacy with regards > network operators, or state actors co-ercing network operators, at > this level, that is

Re: [DMM] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Jon Crowcroft
beware of sidechannel attacks - eg. a sequence of efficient routes can determine a sequence of locations just from latency/rtt estimation (observe outbound data and likely return path ack packets) - you want privacy, you're gonna pay On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Mon, Ju

Re: [DMM] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Jon Crowcroft wrote: > beware of sidechannel attacks - eg. a sequence of efficient routes can > determine a sequence of locations just from latency/rtt estimation > (observe outbound data and likely return path ack packets) - you want > privacy, you're gonna pay >

Re: [DMM] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Jon Crowcroft
agree...of course... just we need to start adding security +cost+ considerations... to drafts > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Jon Crowcroft > wrote: > > beware of sidechannel attacks - eg. a sequence of efficient routes can > > determine a sequence of locations just from latency/rtt estimation

[DMM] dmm - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 102

2018-07-03 Thread "IETF Secretariat"
Dear Sri Gundavelli, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. dmm Session 1 (2:30 requested) Tuesday, 17 July 2018, Morning Session I 0930-1200 Room Name: Van Horne size: 130

Re: [DMM] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Stuart W. Card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Security always has convenience and cost trade-offs. A paper addressing one aspect of this is: "Experimental evaluation of the IP address space randomisation (IASR) technique and its disruption to selected network services" Maxwell Dondo, DRDC – Otta

[DMM] LISP for SRv6

2018-07-03 Thread Alberto Rodriguez-Natal
Hi all, We have published the draft "LISP Control Plane for SRv6 Endpoint Mobility" [1]. Please take a look and let us know any feedback you may have. Thanks! Alberto [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rodrigueznatal-lisp-srv6-00 ___ dmm mailing lis