Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Matteo Panella
Hi, On 21/12/2014 21:43, Ayan George wrote: > Still -- I think whatever leadership Devuan has should have denounced it > by now. Literally nobody was aware of that until he himself brought that up amidst his (usual) threats. And I think that Jaromil made it clear what the position of the project

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Ayan George
On 12/21/2014 02:38 PM, hellekin wrote: On 12/21/2014 02:53 PM, Ayan George wrote: I have to admit: I've been following the list and Ruben's posts and I think by in large he makes good points. *** I think you're right. But his good points are entirely lost with his aggressive, dismissive,

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread hellekin
On 12/21/2014 02:53 PM, Ayan George wrote: > > I have to admit: I've been following the list and Ruben's posts and I > think by in large he makes good points. > *** I think you're right. But his good points are entirely lost with his aggressive, dismissive, defamatory attitude. Despite that horr

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread T.J. Duchene
So far the list isn't helping me work out what's going on :) May I make a suggestion? No matter what you do, you are going to have to deal with trolls. I'd so something new that other projects haven't done. I would leave the public list in tact, but at the membership's discretion, invite

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Jaromil
re all, On 21 December 2014 18:26:50 CET, Matteo Panella wrote: >I don't think that the appropriate way of dealing with a troll trying >to flame the shit out of us is making inflammatory and distasteful >statements. > >Please, refrain from posting this kind of statements on this list in >the fut

Re: [Dng] image upload

2014-12-21 Thread Vlad
Isn't the Debian swirl logo GPL as well, I do not think t will be a problem for Devuan to use it? On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:17 PM, hal wrote: > John Morris wrote on 12/18/14 15:46: > > I like it, but nothing with the Debian registered trademark swirl is > > likely to be usable for legal reasons.

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Ayan George
On 12/21/2014 04:24 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > if I will need to defend myself from this, I will do it in legal ways > obviously, and I will not involve this project. therefore once again > please do not reply to trolls and if you write independently about > this and other systemd related episodes p

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Matteo Panella
Delurking for a moment. On 21/12/2014 15:25, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > I really can't help but being sympathethic with neonazis. I don't think that the appropriate way of dealing with a troll trying to flame the shit out of us is making inflammatory and distasteful statements. Please, refrain fro

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Ayan George
On 12/21/2014 09:25 AM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > > I really can't help but being sympathethic with neonazis. > Yikes! :^) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread JP
On 2014-12-21 09:24, Jaromil wrote: re all, soon there will be an update, Thanks for that I'm not getting involved in the other thing, bad choice of threads to reply to ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Greetings. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 07:35:44PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > What was finally discovered is that a man named Denis Roji is behind > this project. He is in Amsterdam, one of my favorite places, but > originally from Italy. He is associated with some strongly anti-semetic > radicals

Re: [Dng] garbage collection

2014-12-21 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Jaromil wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Martijn Dekkers wrote: > > >Who let Ruben off the leash? > > he re-subscribed from another email, avoiding the ban. To be precise: he was banned, but he was never noticed the ban. In a quick consultation VUAs have decided to ban hi

Re: [Dng] garbage collection

2014-12-21 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Martijn Dekkers wrote: >Who let Ruben off the leash? he re-subscribed from another email, avoiding the ban. it can be useful to inform other members, especially new members, about the trolling attacks, as well signal such abuses to ab...@devuan.org ciao ___

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:24:52AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > re all, > > On 21 December 2014 10:03:29 CET, JP wrote: > > > > >So far the list isn't helping me work out what's going on :) > > > soon there will be an update, > > as of the accusations of threath now, mr.Safir obviously has a condi

Re: [Dng] garbage collection

2014-12-21 Thread Martijn Dekkers
Who let Ruben off the leash? On 21 December 2014 at 01:37, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Goliath Timeline > > All emphasis below ours > > October 17, 2013: Torrent index site Isohunt shuts down after losing a > $110 million legal battle with MPAA. The MPAA effort was led by lawyer > Steven Fabrizio. >

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread Jaromil
re all, On 21 December 2014 10:03:29 CET, JP wrote: > >So far the list isn't helping me work out what's going on :) soon there will be an update, as of the accusations of threath now, mr.Safir obviously has a condition that we cannot help. meanwhile he is managing to delete all mentions of

Re: [Dng] Devuan Fork and Fraud

2014-12-21 Thread JP
On 2014-12-21 01:23, T.J. Duchene wrote: On 12/20/2014 6:35 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: as anyone know, I hate what systemd has done to the GNU/Linux ecosystem however one project that is put together in order to work out a system without systemd, http://debianfork.org/, Devuan, really needs to be a