On 03/03/2015 09:07 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
As time passed, they kept finding new uses for their scripting
language. Occasionally they would realize and existing module needed
major new functinoality, and it was easier to write the new version in
Scheme than to modify the old. Over two years o
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 10:07:41PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
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> > It can be discussed
> > > wether the choice makes sense, but I don't see even why C should
> > > always be considered.
> > >
> > >
> > Efficiency and guaranteed portability, Diedler. You can't say the same
> > of Pytho
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 04:42:42PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:25:23 +
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>
> > Well, if you found that *for your particular tasks* C can replace Perl
> > or Python, I believe you. But it's just not true that this should be
> > the case for everybody el
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 12:51:21AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote:
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>
> However, I recognize you probably won't get C done in less than 2 hours
> like you do with Python.
That's exactly my point :) And sometimes having a Python code ready in
two hours is much more important for me than having a
On Tue, 3/3/15, Franco Lanza wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XIV - Where no toy has gone before
To: "dng"
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2015, 8:41 PM
>
> Thanks hellekin and all DWN contributors,
> with this editorial you made my day, i love it :D
>
> As we have such naming and as "w
from: http://php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.php
FPM (FastCGI Process Manager) is an alternative PHP FastCGI
implementation with some additional features (mostly) useful for
heavy-loaded sites.
this actually makes some sense because systemd does do process
management. regardless, my guess was that
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 05:36:54PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:46:17 +0100
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> > I had
> > experiences of big programs in C and my experience is that debugging
> > is long (and probably never ended) and evolution is a nightmare.
>
> That can be true,
Hello Everybody,
I feel like being forced to (indirectly) use libsystemd0 on my VPS just
now.
I pinned my php5 packages to version 5.4.36-0+deb7u1 on wheezy, because
php5-fpm version 5.6.5+dfsg-2 on jessie requires libsystemd0. When I did
dist-upgrade just now, it wanted to upgrade dpkg, dpk
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 04:19:06AM -0300, hellekin wrote:
> ## Editorial
>
> It's hard to believe it's winter when you have to mop the sweat out of
> your keyboard, but the intensity of this week's conversations, and
> @golinux's [penguins][0] made thinking about cold easier. Cold reigns
> in dee
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:42 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:25:23 +
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> All computer languages are constrained to the physical nature of the
> processor, so the benefits of one over another are usually really
> nothing more than syntactic sugar.
So what you'
Good work, hellekin!
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:19 AM, hellekin wrote:
> ### [Beware The Red Hat Octopus][25]
>
> Steven W. Scott warns against Red Hat's way, comparing systemd with
> Microsoft's failed attempt to supplant Sun's Java. (Is there a Godwin
> point for mentioning M$?) He offers to ch
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 07:25:23AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 04:35:24PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > When you code in Perl, you are using subroutines and libraries that
> > were incorporated into Perl core.The fact you are calling an
> > entire subroutine when you "split
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 18:11:56 +0100
"Tom Collins" wrote:
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
>
> Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be
> entirely forked to stay away from systemd. I
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:46:17 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Le 02/03/2015 23:43, T.J. Duchene a écrit :
> > We just see things differently. My first question would be: is
> > there are a justified reason NOT to use C?
>
> There is a very good reason, and I heard it was given by
> Kernighan
On 03/03/15 18:38, Isaac Dunham wrote:
>
> If I understand correctly, the point of the allusion is that the quest
> for *one and only one* solution is not desireable.
>
*** Indeed, Isaac, that was my point. It's not just for the IF badges
though, but a general principle: we tend to forget about d
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:25:23 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> Well, if you found that *for your particular tasks* C can replace Perl
> or Python, I believe you. But it's just not true that this should be
> the case for everybody else, in every possible use case.
>
What I have found is that many of the ar
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:22:55AM +0700, ?? wrote:
> ?? Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:30:22 -0300
> hellekin ??:
>
> > > Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it necessary to
> > > translate even logo into languages? - Let it be just graphical
> > > stuff.
>
> > *** Wh
В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:25:59 -1000
Joel Roth пишет:
> It could be the One Ring, or it could be The Matrix.
> I think penguins walking out of jail gives a similar idea,
> while using a more universal symbol. Perhaps I should try my hand
> at photo-shopping, err.. gimping it.
I suggest to list our
В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:40 -0500
Gravis пишет:
> this coming from the person that has the initials for "shut the hell
> up" as their signature.
WOW! 8oO
Yet, Sthu.
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В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:30:22 -0300
hellekin пишет:
> > Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project, why make it necessary to
> > translate even logo into languages? - Let it be just graphical
> > stuff.
> *** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't
> we have unity throug
On Tue, 3/3/15, Ста Деюс wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2015, 3:07 PM
В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:05:49 -0300
hellekin пишет:
>> impressive", or "very effective". As a non-native English speaker as
>> well, it didn't occur to me th
В Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:05:49 -0300
hellekin пишет:
> impressive", or "very effective". As a non-native English speaker as
> well, it didn't occur to me that it was impolite to do so, and
> apparently the people who worked on this issue were not shocked
> either. As was mentioned before, anyone is
hi Sisyphus,
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015, sisyphus wrote:
> Question: Is there an rss feed with which to follow the "Devuan
> Weekly News" ? For those of us who rely on newsbeuter...
yes http://lists.devuan.org/dwn/atom.xml
just being setted up these days, unfortunately due to some adjustements
it got
hi Tom,
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Tom Collins wrote:
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
not a problem I'd say. There are plenty of userland applications out
there that have support for systemd and we can be ju
Question: Is there an rss feed with which to follow the "Devuan Weekly
News" ? For those of us who rely on newsbeuter...
-grant
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Also, VLC 2.2.0 (latest) has been compiled by Alien Bob for Slackware, without
systemd.
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/coordinated-release-of-vlc-2-2-0/
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From: "Gravis" [rin...@adaptivetime.com]
Date: 03/03/2015 01:56 PM
To: "Tom Collins"
CC: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Su
Minor correction: I should point out that Linus was mad at Kay Sievers for
breaking udev, and then blaming the kernel's firmware loader. The breakage
didn't have anything to do with kdbus, as far as I know (which is what I
was trying to clarify in the first place--Linus and Kay weren't fighting
a
> They feel if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
what gives you that idea? they dont collect usage stats or anything,
they just give you the /option/ to have the player look up missing
information about what is playing or check if there is a new release.
what is so sinister about
Yes, that is what I mean (Video Lan Client)
It also phones home these days by default:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/downloading-and-installing-vlc-media-player-in-win.pageCd-storyboard,pageNum-11.html#slideshow
The linux we knew is done unless everything is forked. The new generation
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:11 +0100, Tom Collins wrote:
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
>
> Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be
> entirely forked to stay away from systemd. It s
http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
" VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be entirely
forked to stay away from systemd. It seems every developer these days is
infected with a mind virus:
Le 03/03/2015 01:08, T.J. Duchene a écrit :
It's interesting that you'd mention Java here. I don't much like the
Java language or the Java programming culture, but Java bytecode has
the interesting property that, with a little plumbing, one can send
executable code over the network and ha
Le 02/03/2015 23:43, T.J. Duchene a écrit :
We just see things differently. My first question would be: is there
are a justified reason NOT to use C?
There is a very good reason, and I heard it was given by Kernighan
and Ritchie: "we assume the programmer knows what (s)he is doing". And
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