Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread Stefan Ott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/07/2015 06:49 PM, Jaromil wrote: yep. And I for one will be doing everything possible to have third-party packaging systems like gem, pip, composer and others supported and preferred in Devuan. This is something that Debian has been

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-07 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Klaus Hartnegg hartn...@uni-freiburg.de wrote: Just want to say that I really like this idea of naming releases after minor planets, such as Ceres. It's a way cool idea. +1 Cool yes, but useful? Numbers have the huge advantage that everybody knows their

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-07 Thread william moss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/07/2015 11:16 AM, Klaus Hartnegg wrote: Am 04.03.2015 um 23:10 schrieb Robert Storey robert.sto...@gmail.com: Just want to say that I really like this idea of naming releases after minor planets, such as Ceres. It's a way cool idea.

Re: [Dng] release names

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
On 03/07/15 14:21, william moss wrote: Cool yes, but useful? Numbers have the huge advantage that everybody knows their order, which is quite important when referring to versions. *** Release *NAMES* never replaced version numbers. Hence Debian 8 Jessie and Devuan 1.0 Jessie. == hk -- _ _

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-07 Thread T.J. Duchene
Go look at the code, it's open is a common argument i hear from pro-systemd advocates. Curious. About looking at the code: have you personally audited chrome's code, top to bottom, OpenBSD-style? 'Cos if you haven't - it is a big piece of software -, well your argument is moot Nuno,

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-07 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:06 PM, T.J. Duchene t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote: If someone has issue with the code, it's open. Go look for yourself. I beg everyone's kind indulgence and excuse me for saying this, but the conspiracy theories about Google and the Chromium source code come from people

Re: [Dng] [bikeshedding] release names

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
Maybe it's just me but I don't understand what you're contemplating. Why do you think Devuan should use a more complicated set of suites than Debian? Ceres is aliased to `sid`, so it's not testing, but unstable. The way Debian handles testing, code freezes, etc. is not 1:1 with Devuan (or so I

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
On 03/07/15 05:59, JeremyBekka C wrote: how can I get Vagrant to run in Gentoo? *** As mentioned at [0], the way to go is to install it using Rubygems. https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-vagrant == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share

Re: [Dng] with pax flags, Java works fine - (was Hardened Devuan)

2015-03-07 Thread Peter Maloney
Just to clarify... *Java will run* with a grsecurity hardened kernel, with pax enabled. It just needs mprotect disabled for the specific programs that need it disabled. (and also many other things need this... python, kdeinit4, skype, kscreenlocker_greet, thunderbird, firefox, plugin-container,

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 06:49:34PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: On 7 March 2015 15:48:18 CET, hellekin helle...@dyne.org wrote: On 03/07/15 05:59, JeremyBekka C wrote: how can I get Vagrant to run in Gentoo? *** As mentioned at [0], the way to go is to install it using Rubygems.

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

2015-03-07 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 02:19:43PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2015/msg00031.html I think ^THIS is probably the biggest reason not to use Chromium. Never mind whether it's affiliated with Google or whether that makes it untrustworthy.

Re: [Dng] Devuan Alpha i386 - developers release series on Vagrant

2015-03-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 02:11:35 +0100 Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: Hi all, This is the initial release of the Alpha series, base-system stripped at minimum and distributed in Vagrant format (virtualbox provider), to make the life of developers working on core components as vdev easier.